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I warn people that there is a small But documented risk of testicle loss during vasectomy as well.
Your influenza and other vaccine sheets mentioned a warning of risk for Guillain-Barre.
You can't talk about deep state and hiding stuff, and then also complain about informed consent. Life is about risk and probabilities. The risk of vaccination is significantly lower than the risk of infection with coronavirus.
Telling people the small but serious risk is the opposite of deep state. It is appropriate medicine.
Did you vaccinate yourself?
Did you actually inject?
People I spoke with said there was no mention of side effects at the drive up locations here.
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Yea plus I’ve put so much drugs in my body like I’m gonna get scared by that
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Yea plus I’ve put so much drugs in my body like I’m gonna get scared by that
I'm really just trying to microchip people because Bill and I share a slip at the marina.
Just my opinion, but informed medicine would be prescribing Ivermectin, even if it meant not following orders. But I just sell conveyor & build shitty decks.
Will you do my vasectomy when it's time?
I thought when I got Moderna I was getting a second rate vaccine. Now I look down on the Pfizers.
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What orders? Any doctor is allowed to write ivermectin right now. There's nothing stopping us. Most are choosing not to due to lack of proven benefit. Some do write it.
Ivermectin has small data of use and also data for harm. In the studies did you read the one where patients in the ICU given ivermectin for more likely to require mechanical ventilation? It's a small study but worth considering that it's not a panacea without risk and part of doing no harm as part of a doctor's job. without risk and part of doing no harm as part of a doctor's job.
What about the fact that in large multi-center randomized trials it continues to show little to no benefit short of a non-statistical shortening of about one day in the outpatient setting of symptoms, with no difference in hospitalization or death.
What about the fact that the largest ivermectin study that was originally used and it made analysis to justify use was plagiarized and fake their data?
If ivermectin is so powerful and clearly useful, why is it so difficult to duplicate in multiple countries with multiple randomized trials? And it only shows strong evidence for use when lumped under a meta analysis with many small studies?
But patients and politics aren't appropriate interventions on the decision of the doctor.
Informed consent is not a patient telling a doctor what they have to prescribe. In fact it'd be quite the opposite. What should happen if a doctor chose to write ivermectin, as some do, is that the patient should be made aware of the lack of evidence. But bigger than that, perhaps ivermectin works in a certain population and we will find that out and that would be good because it would be another tool. Whatever effect it has remains significantly less effective than simply being vaccinated.
The fancy pants outpatient antibodies that we are using work significantly better than ivermectin. They have consistent data. They're also ridiculously expensive at about $2,000 a pop. So again they are a great tool and I'm happy to have them. But it would be more effective to just simply get vaccinated and a lot cheaper too.
I can to be clear I was one of the earliest people to mention ivermectin killing Coronavirus in Petri dish. I was hopeful for it. However the studies have not borne out the ability to consistently show it has benefit in vivo.
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Your deck was nice
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Hot tub worthy no doubt.
So 99.97% chance of dying from Covid, and 99.99% chance of heart attack death from pfizer brand of injection?Yo @Splinty@sparkuri
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Study claiming 1 in 1,000 risk of heart inflammation after COVID vaccine got calculation wrong
The study authors have requested the paper be retracted because the incorrect data 'vastly inflates the incidence of post-vaccine myocarditis'nationalpost.com
What does it say about lifelong severe conditions from covid, & lifelong severe reactions & other forms of death from the pfizer injection?
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I haven’t seen it in months
thing could have rotted away by now!
thing could have rotted away by now!
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here’s a cool fact:
Sudden death (in young adults, myocarditis causes up to 20% of all cases of sudden death).
Sudden death (in young adults, myocarditis causes up to 20% of all cases of sudden death).
I got a form like everyone else here, ticked some boxes here and there, and could have wrote something but didn't, cause only mild reactions.
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@Splinty is this true?!
Uhm, no. I ticked boxes that fitted my reactions.
AFAIK it's standard, we also get a lot of text to read before and a doctor to talk to you about it for any questions before the first jab at least.