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The more you stop vaccination the more you enrich regeneron et al.
You own regeneron stock now? How can we trust your portfolio to give us honest data.
You own regeneron stock now? How can we trust your portfolio to give us honest data.
I don't own Regeneron. Wish I did.
They grew $21,391,000,000
Nor do I own any of the ones I listed.
I dabbled in Novavax very early in the process but I sold it. Way too early I might add.
Novavax grew $10,427,760,000
Some folks here probably still own that one. They've done quite well and I couldn't be happier for them.
So why the 11th hour push that doesn't face consequences for 60 days?
Pfizer board member Gottlieb says the Covid pandemic could be over in the U.S. by January
"These mandates that are going to be put in place by Jan. 4 really are coming on the tail end of this pandemic," said Gottlieb, who sits on Pfizer's board.www.cnbc.com
Honest question. Because it puzzles me.
Is this a way to filter as much money as possible to these companies as a "Thanks" for participating in Operation Warp Speed?
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You'll have to define that since its the foundation of your whole post.
You have to give time for implementation. It's why active duty has a different timeline than reserve components for instance.
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Is delaying a thank you to regeneron for saving Trump?
There will be profiteering whether you advance or slow various interventions.
do you have kids? until they're ~6, they default to subordination when unsure.
they do what their grown-up does.
they're forcing people to choose between their job and an experimental vaccine, and they're using the crush of the Holidays to exert maximum social and financial pressure.
24 State AGs have already given notice of intent to sue, so the timing is overt.
but the vaccine mandate creates artificial demand for the vaccine.
or did I miss your point entirely?
I'll have to inform the entire field of early childhood development that a guy on the internet says they're wrong because he has kids.
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That's a weird description.
Is not vaccinating or setting rules for travel (ie masks) artificially increasing demand for hospital utilization? Regeneron utilization? Do sporting events artificially increase regeneron demand?
My point is that such terms and tone is myopic and the real question is 1> do said mandates have scientific backing as an effective intervention 2> are they contrary to various social standards and personal rights above communal rights.
Bandying about how the mandates are just to make money requires you to show they are not a cost effective intervention first. Otherwise profits are a byproduct and not the reason for the mandate.
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Loaded term that isn't consistent with previous vaccination process definitions.
withdrawn, your honor.
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No I am
11th Hour - Since the global return from shutdown, this is the strictest private sector policy/guidance we've seen, and it comes while cases and deaths are declining at a healthy pace.
As a nation, we had a 30% reduction in the 7 day average from Oct 1 to Nov 1.
And now they bring the hammer down on the private sector? It just feels...odd.
i don't think that the vaccines are as effective as previously stated by the manufacturers.
i don't think that more time and more information is going to benefit the manufacturers.
if the vaccine is less than 50% effective at 6 months, and the long term effects of repeat and sustained vaccinations are unknown, why are we pushing repeat and sustained vaccinations for the entire population?
maybe it's a motive, maybe it's just a benefit to the manufacturers, but vaccine mandates also remove the "control group" from analysis.
They've ignored "control groups" entirely.
One would be testing antibody levels for those recovered from Covid.
"Already had Covid? Tough shit. Get the jab or stay how from work."
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Im once again forgetting the eponymous term, But it's not unusual at all for medical interventions to lag disease process. We pretty much do it every time with every outbreak. The disease peaks kills everybody off and we barely catch up to lower the continued risk in the future.
But let's think about the alternative.
We didn't have the supplies to push said mandates in the spring.
By the summer we thought we were going to be done with this and there was huge voluntary uptake of vaccines anyways.
Then Delta comes along and basically screws the pooch on that.
I wouldn't expect to see any mandates until the last few months anyways. And then you have to give time to actually apply them.
I'm a little annoyed that even have to say this but this isn't an advocacy for mandates. Simply that looking at the timeline I don't see how a mandate would have been pushed before it was.
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The lack of data on this is highly annoying and concerning.
I don't think titers are a very good strategy since they typically cost a lot more than the vaccination itself. But in the political climate and in interest in actual safety and science, if people want to blow their cash getting titers and we had evidence that they meant immunity at some level then get on with it.
No, but I can probably put you in touch with multiple people who work in the field in various capacities or a university psychology professor who specialized in the field of early childhood development if you like.
Once I'm home from work I can link you papers if you're on academia.edu if you really need me too.
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Around here, CVS will do it for $38
Most places require a note from your physician. Not sure what that's about.
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