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Splinty

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Herp derp better do nothing. How could that be a bad plan with a finite resource?

Total waste of money and avoidable suffering.
 

ThatOneDude

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Herp derp better do nothing. How could that be a bad plan with a finite resource?

Total waste of money and avoidable suffering.
Who was saying this doesn't happen?
 

Splinty

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Who was saying this doesn't happen?
Beyond local surges there is a major problem that if we all go up at once or a region goes up at once you lose your transfer centers.

Ideally you would play wack a mole until a vaccine and that would allow you to muster up resources from other areas to buffer against these overruns.

The Crux?

You need federal guidance and leadership.
The independent nature of the US healthcare system results in everybody having minimal incentive to accept transfers of these sick and underinsured patients.

Retrospective studies in New York show that public hospitals got overwhelmed while private hospitals regularly did not participate in the transfer acceptances. If you don't have leadership everybody's looking out for themselves in a single facility that might mean the bottom line at the cost of deaths and overruns at another facility.
 

ThatOneDude

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Beyond local surges there is a major problem that if we all go up at once or a region goes up at once you lose your transfer centers.

Ideally you would play wack a mole until a vaccine and that would allow you to muster up resources from other areas to buffer against these overruns.

The Crux?

You need federal guidance and leadership.
The independent nature of the US healthcare system results in everybody having minimal incentive to accept transfers of these sick and underinsured patients.

Retrospective studies in New York show that public hospitals got overwhelmed while private hospitals regularly did not participate in the transfer acceptances. If you don't have leadership everybody's looking out for themselves in a single facility that might mean the bottom line at the cost of deaths and overruns at another facility.
You're doing a really great job.
 

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Has Covid killed off the flu? Experts pose the intriguing question as influenza cases nosedive by 98% across the globe

 

Splinty

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I'm not going to go a whole lot deeper into the daily Mail of all papers. But you can't call it a 98% drop if you don't have comparison data.

and frankly I don't know how to deep dive data from areas that should have data like Australia which finished its flu season.
 

Splinty

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Is the implication that we're now against data?

first off Elon continues to say things that are in the interest of Elon not in the interest of the public.
Elon is on twitter record supporting a coup for lithium. So just understand that he has a history of bias in self-interest.

outside of this the major problem as above is that there is zero reason your test should cost this much. I would like to see the breakdown because the test themselves don't typically cost the price that is shown.
Even wholesale to a clinic testing is cheaper than that. I'm guessing that that cost includes a physician interpreting the result and giving guidance the patient or what to do next.

The issue is that there is zero reason you should be giving me any money for your test. It is positive or negative and a pamphlet provides the first aid guidance needed to decide if you should go to the emergency department if you're one of the severe cases.

Elon musk might be raising the point that if you're a testing company more testing means more money. But he also implies that somehow testing is a money grab only. When in fact testing is the only way you get rid of all the other stuff and as a public good testing is how you get America back to work without America paying for a lot of hospital care and dead citizens.

Testing is a great investment and it seems strange that anybody would be against figuring out if a person presenting with covid-19 symptoms is covid-19 or not.
 

Rambo John J

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