General Coup underway in Venezuela right now

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Never_Rolled

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So many moving parts. They want to oust him because he called for an early election. He committed some fuckery I believe by getting rid of the high court. The other side is saying because of this the speaker should be the next elected leader and most countries have signed on to this. The world wants him gone for obvious reasons but I don't believe the one they are hitching their wagon too is 100% legitimate but in the end that won't matter.
 

Splinty

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Dec 31, 2014
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So many moving parts. They want to oust him because he called for an early election. He committed some fuckery I believe by getting rid of the high court. The other side is saying because of this the speaker should be the next elected leader and most countries have signed on to this. The world wants him gone for obvious reasons but I don't believe the one they are hitching their wagon too is 100% legitimate but in the end that won't matter.
Correct

Chavez hand picks Maduro.
Fuckery afoot in his initial presidency selection followed by fuckery with the election.
Then he cracks down to solidify things and remove any conversation about it.
Combo of this and Chavistas not being able to understand basic economics squanders Venezuela'ss position and crashes the economy. Famine, shortages, and the overarching shadow of this fuckery leads to the opposition calling protests and his removal. More crack down, more division.
The west signs onto the guy that is ostensibly calling for a democracy...while attempting a hard/soft coup. Russia/China as usual counteract any such move as to do so is to undermine their own authoritarian rule.

We don't win here no matter what. New guy can come in, bring democracy, etc etc and it will still be too much external process to let this settle.
But wtf to do when there are external processes that propped up Maduro for largely anti western reasons. This is geopolitics not right and wrong.
 

Dr. Prosper Meniere

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Dec 1, 2015
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Correct

Chavez hand picks Maduro.
Fuckery afoot in his initial presidency selection followed by fuckery with the election.
Then he cracks down to solidify things and remove any conversation about it.
Combo of this and Chavistas not being able to understand basic economics squanders Venezuela'ss position and crashes the economy. Famine, shortages, and the overarching shadow of this fuckery leads to the opposition calling protests and his removal. More crack down, more division.
The west signs onto the guy that is ostensibly calling for a democracy...while attempting a hard/soft coup. Russia/China as usual counteract any such move as to do so is to undermine their own authoritarian rule.

We don't win here no matter what. New guy can come in, bring democracy, etc etc and it will still be too much external process to let this settle.
But wtf to do when there are external processes that propped up Maduro for largely anti western reasons. This is geopolitics not right and wrong.
Terrible analysis, as expected.
 

Splinty

Shake 'em off
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Dec 31, 2014
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Terrible analysis, as expected.
Passive aggressive personal attacks without anything worthwhile to the current conversation, as you continue to do.


Learn to have a conversation about the topic without personal attacks or find a new forum.It's every thread at this point and this is the last one.
 

KWingJitsu

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Nov 15, 2015
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Passive aggressive personal attacks without anything worthwhile to the current conversation, as you continue to do.


Learn to have a conversation about the topic without personal attacks or find a new forum.It's every thread at this point and this is the last one.


That's hot!
 

Robbie Hart

I apparently look like a Jewish accountant
Feb 13, 2015
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Passive aggressive personal attacks without anything worthwhile to the current conversation, as you continue to do.


Learn to have a conversation about the topic without personal attacks or find a new forum.It's every thread at this point and this is the last one.
Yep, he’s got some issues that he needs to work out
I’m not sure if he’s deluded, a keyboard warrior or just hurting inside and is trying to reach out for help
 

Dr. Prosper Meniere

Do you want to bet against me?
Dec 1, 2015
5,466
9,489
Passive aggressive personal attacks without anything worthwhile to the current conversation, as you continue to do.


Learn to have a conversation about the topic without personal attacks or find a new forum.It's every thread at this point and this is the last one.
It's not every thread, just the last two. I see no problem making fun of people who are better suited to Stormfront (not you, this applies to others who I mock) and will continue to do so.

The reason I don't try to debate these issues with you is that it is simply pointless. I've tried before. I was going to follow up my initial statement but then decided against it.
 

Toelocku

Nationalist Populist
Dec 15, 2018
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It's not every thread, just the last two. I see no problem making fun of people who are better suited to Stormfront (not you, this applies to others who I mock) and will continue to do so.

The reason I don't try to debate these issues with you is that it is simply pointless. I've tried before. I was going to follow up my initial statement but then decided against it.
Who are these other people?
 

Megaterio Llamas

Vigorously working member
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Jan 15, 2015
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Correct

Chavez hand picks Maduro.
Fuckery afoot in his initial presidency selection followed by fuckery with the election.
Then he cracks down to solidify things and remove any conversation about it.
Combo of this and Chavistas not being able to understand basic economics squanders Venezuela'ss position and crashes the economy. Famine, shortages, and the overarching shadow of this fuckery leads to the opposition calling protests and his removal. More crack down, more division.
The west signs onto the guy that is ostensibly calling for a democracy...while attempting a hard/soft coup. Russia/China as usual counteract any such move as to do so is to undermine their own authoritarian rule.

We don't win here no matter what. New guy can come in, bring democracy, etc etc and it will still be too much external process to let this settle.
But wtf to do when there are external processes that propped up Maduro for largely anti western reasons. This is geopolitics not right and wrong.
They can hold a hundred elections if they want to and there still won't be enough white voters to swing it bqck to the right. The mestizos are just more numerous in Venezuela and they are politically awake now.

I hate to boil it down to race, but that is just basically how it breaks down in that society.