I honestly wouldn't be shocked especially since he is from LI where the gear flows like water lol
Cris Cyborg accuses Dana White, Ronda Rousey of 'bullying' her in Facebook rant
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my man you kind of made my point. Chris always said he was never on shit and I wasn't one of his close friends but he very well couldve been on gear. My main point is and was that people who use will almost never admit to it especially when they are pro athletes. So what I probably shouldn't said is Chris always said he was never on shit.
To extend on that a bit I said about 98 percent use gear not 100 percent. Chris could be clean Ronda could be clean Diaz and others could be clean BUT the fact of the matter is PEDs is a part of sports and always will be and we will never fully know who uses and who doesn't unless we shoot them up ourselves.
To extend on that a bit I said about 98 percent use gear not 100 percent. Chris could be clean Ronda could be clean Diaz and others could be clean BUT the fact of the matter is PEDs is a part of sports and always will be and we will never fully know who uses and who doesn't unless we shoot them up ourselves.
I find it very hard to believe that there aren't women who can make 145 in the world who don't like to fight. There are plenty in BJJ, wrestling and judo. I'm sure there are some in kickboxing and boxing. I mean, in my life, I probably only know about 10 women under 145 so they're out there for sure. Why aren't they flocking to MMA to make big money fights with Cyborg?
I really think we're looking at this completely wrong. The investment just isn't there. As long as that's true, there will be no incentive for the risk and Cyborg will be left adrift, in the uncomfortable position of having to do what no male fighter in an equally shallow division has ever been asked to do (eg Anderson Silva from 2008-2010).
I really think we're looking at this completely wrong. The investment just isn't there. As long as that's true, there will be no incentive for the risk and Cyborg will be left adrift, in the uncomfortable position of having to do what no male fighter in an equally shallow division has ever been asked to do (eg Anderson Silva from 2008-2010).
You're looking at it wrong. How many are 160-165 in peak athletic shape and are prepared to fight in a cage? Smaller than those who fight at 135 and a lot smaller than 115.
As far as male fighters go, super heavyweights are told they have to get down to 265 to compete if they want to fight in the UFC. It's no different from Cyborg's situation, if she wants to fight in the UFC she can get down to the highest weight class they offer, or spend her time outside the UFC.
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I'm still confident there are more women out there than are in the sport as yet and it's largely because of money. The comparison to shw isn't quite apt because there are and and always have been females 145+. Gina created that division and if she was still fighting a lot more money would be in it.
There would be more heavyweights and above with more money. I don't get what you mean in regards to shw, are you saying there was time when men weren't over 265+ lbs?
Lol I typed it and even I'm having a hard time understanding it in the harsh light of day.
No, I'm saying 145 is a fairly middle of the pack weight for women and there are a lot of female athletes who have competed at that weight and above. SHW is a top limit so I think it's a bad comparison to what amounts to a medium limit for women. The mean average for women in the US is 166 lbs. Super heavy men, like flyweight men, are generally an outlier.
I don't think 145 is a common weight for women. You have to factor in a 10-15lb weight cut, so we're talking about women weighing 160lbs in fight shape. That's Cyborg and she's rare.
I would say the average woman, if lean and in shape, would be around 120-130lbs. Some would be bigger but some would be smaller.
She's already talking about working on her
what are we talking about here?