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D241

D241

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I've been engulfing myself with Jordan stuff as of late.

More blocked shots than any other SG in NBA history.
Higher steals per game than Pippen, as well as lead the league in total steals 3X to Pippen's 1.

This video really highlights how good he was. How athletic, how creative, how ahead of everyone else he was, and still is.

Lebron is the better person though.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M7yBjtx_Ic
 
maurice

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Flopping aside, a really underrated difference is how the refs call fouls in each era.

Nowadays, most slight contact on the perimeter is considered a foul and may even result in 3 free throws.

In Jordan's era, most significant contact on the perimeter was not any sort of foul and shooting 3 free throws was a novelty. Scoring 3 points on a single play usually meant finishing through contact for an and-one.

Nowaways, potential help defenders are pulled away from the rim by 3 point shooters, shy away from challenging guys who are finishing around the basket, and almost never try to stop a dunk because that could result in a flagrant. Increasingly, you even can get a tech just for looking at somebody wrong.

In Jordan's era, bigs camped out in the paint looking to take a guard's head off on every single drive and, if they knocked you into the 3rd row and stared you down, it was considered an ordinary foul. Intentional fouls by centers were so common that every team had a couple of shitty reserve 7 footers just in case multiple guys fouled out.

Yet Jordan routinely drove through the contact day after day after day, especially when the game was on the line, while the larger LBJ generally avoids drives and prefers to hang out on the perimeter.
 
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Filthy

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D-raw said:
"Players of today are far more athletic, superior training methods, and in general the game has evolved. Players back then wouldn't be able to be as athletic as players of today".

Where is this based on? Are players dunking from the 3 point line now? Michael Jordan was dunking from the FT line in 86. Lebron James has almost dunked from the free throw line, and he's supposed to be evolved and superior athlete?

Watch some of Jordan's games, and tell me where evolution could have helped Jordan. Tell me where Jordan should have zigged instead of zagged. Tell me, specifically what teams did then that they could have done which is what teams are doing now.


Defensive 3 second violation. How many are aware this rule didn't go into effect until 2000?

This means that majority of Michael Jordan's career, the other team's biggest/best defensive players, the rim protectors, could hang out in the paint the entire game. Michael still managed to get more ppg in a game that had this rule. Can you imagine if Jordan played his whole career having the defensive 3 second violation in effect?
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i see very few people account for the 3-point line in comparing generations of NBA players. The addition of the line did a lot to open up offense and stretch defense. Not saying that Jordan wouldn't have been wildly successful without the 3-point line, but it definitely helped his statistics and his play - the same way that the lack of a line helped Russell. But it makes it hard to compare the two players' contributions to the success of their teams. Russell may not have scored a lot of points, but the Celtics aren't winning 11 rings without him.
 
Hauler

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So ESPN is raving about Lebron breaking Jordan's mark for most 30 point games in NBA history, which happened last night.

30 Point Games:
  • 563 Lebron
  • 562 Jordan
This is nothing more than a longevity record for Lebron.
Jordan played in 1072 games. Lebron 1523 games.

So during his career, Jordan went for 30 points 53% of the time.
Lebron did it 37% of the time. Yawn.



More undeserved accolades for the biggest flopper in NBA history.
 
Discomboobulated

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When I was a little kid, I was under the impression that Meadowlark Lemon was the best basketball player in the world.

 
kvr28

kvr28

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Hauler said:
So ESPN is raving about Lebron breaking Jordan's mark for most 30 point games in NBA history, which happened last night.

30 Point Games:
  • 563 Lebron
  • 562 Jordan
This is nothing more than a longevity record for Lebron.
Jordan played in 1072 games. Lebron 1523 games.

So during his career, Jordan went for 30 points 53% of the time.
Lebron did it 37% of the time. Yawn.



More undeserved accolades for the biggest flopper in NBA history.
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This, Jordan is the goat
 
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