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Guerre en Ukraine : Zelensky hausse le ton face aux Occidentaux

L'Ukraine veut "convaincre" ses alliés occidentaux d'"abattre les missiles et drones russes" qui la visent, malgré leurs réticences, a déclaré le président Volodymyr Zelensky en recevant à Kiev le nouveau chef de l'Otan.
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War in Ukraine: Zelensky raises his tone against the West

Russian invasion . Ukraine wants to "convince" its Western allies to "shoot down Russian missiles and drones" that are targeting it, despite their reluctance, President Volodymyr Zelensky said while receiving the new NATO chief in Kiev.



Volodymyr Zelensky is losing patience with his allies. On Thursday, October 3, the Ukrainian president highlighted the grievances he has been harboring for months against the West, accusing them of "dragging out" deliveries of long-range missiles to his country.
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"We will continue to convince our partners of the need to shoot down Russian missiles and drones," Zelensky said during a meeting in kyiv with the new NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte. "We are aware that this is a difficult decision" and that "they are not ready yet," he added. "We need sufficient quantity and quality of weapons, including long-range weapons, with which, in my opinion, our partners are already dragging their feet," the Ukrainian president said at a press conference.
 
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Through all the noise and BS, really it's getting down to just what territory Russia wants to take and keep. It's currently a steam roll that could turn into a route. Keiv and kharkiv east of the Dnieper are a question and odesa west. Anything else on the east side of the river is just a matter of time if russia wants to keep going. Outside of odesa I don't think the Russians want anything west of the river. Keiv and Kharkiv are just going to be a massive pain. So what do the Russians take and what do they not take is really the main point now.
 
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Touch, I doubt the Russians will try a direct assault on odesa but I can see them pushing for a crimea like referendum if they push close or as part of a settlement. Your thoughts?

Also kiev, you think they'll push for it or leave it with all of the territory surrounding it in Russian hands?
 
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You think they will take kiev? That could be a mess to control.

What about odesa?
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Again, divided by Dnepr. Look at the map. Dnepr divides Kiev roughly in half. So that would be half the Kiev. Odessa is west of Dnepr, so that seems unlikely at the moment.
 
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Look at the map.
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Lol, i understand where the river is. Your analysis of half of kiev is the first time I've heard that from anyone so forgive my confusion. I don't agree with you on odesa. If I'm the Russians I want it. I would rather have it than keiv. Crossing the Dnepr in the south shouldn't be a big deal and I think all of those areas along the south are majority russian all the way to odesa. You can't leave transnistria stranded. Take the land bridge and land lock Ukraine. Anything else leaves your navy vulnerable to the shenanigans nato will be playing even after the war is over.
 
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Sure I want it! It is the Russian city founded by Catherine the Great, and a bit Jewish, as Mr. Putin said. It just doesn't seem feasible at the moment but who knows what happens in the future, If Ukraine is broken they might give up everything Russia wants. Its just that the west has invested in Ukraine too much to let that happen and the nuclear war is looming. We shall see.
 
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Anyone else here foresee a three state solution? Novorossiya joins Russia, a central Ukrainian state includiding Kiev and Odessa becomes part of a Union State with Russia and Belarus, and an unstable, nazi infested pro EU state in the west? I think it could happen and might work.
 
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You are thinking like a rational person. But the current Ukraine owners are totally unhinged. They want all or nothing. And I think it is obvious they are not getting all (i.e. the so-called "1991 borders" that were a sham to begin with)
 
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The Ukrainian "artist" Nikita Kushnir became the first in Poland to have his healthy leg amputated below the knee - proving that he suffers from a rare psychological disorder called "failure to accept the integrity of his body."

The "artist" did this to express solidarity with the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who lost their limbs in the war. Kushnir hoped to earn 1 million euros to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine with his performance, but he was only able to scrounge up 3,000 euros.

A natural question arises - why doesn't he just return to his native land and launch a counterattack on the mine?
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Dr that did that should lose their license
 
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American mercenary Nick Duckworth has been eliminated in the SVO zone. At one time, in the summer of 2023, he was lucky to survive a missile strike by Russian troops on a temporary deployment point for militants in Kramatorsk.

At that time, both Nick and his fellow "volunteer colleagues" tried to frame the strike as an attack on a civilian facility. But facts are stubborn things, our guys covered the command staff of the 56th motorized infantry brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and at the same time foreign mercenaries who had settled in a local hotel.

Now they are reporting that Duckworth was eliminated in the Zaporizhzhya direction, his car was overtaken by a Russian FPV drone.
 
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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry condemned American musician Jared Leto for saying he would perform in Russia "when all these problems end." "

Jared Leto "feels Russian energy" and wants to perform in Russia - this is an insult to those who sacrifice their lives to protect freedom. There can be no appeasement for Russia when it continues its attempts to solve the "problem" of Ukraine's very existence," the Foreign Ministry said.
 
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