The constant whiplash of draw down and surge and draw down and surge even made people skeptical that we would actually leave this time.
@Shang Tsong2 still thinks we'll be back in a few weeks. Which isnt A terrible guess given the schizophrenic history.
Welcome to the new Cold War.The constant will flash and draw down and surge and draw down and surge even made people skeptical that we would actually leave this time.
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Well I know what I'll be calling the MoDs for the next week or two...
But biden still pulled out. Trump wouldn't have done so under these circumstances as he stated. Biden even said the towlieban wouldnt take over the country. Try and try to blame trump for this but it's all biden. He has 2 humanitarian disasters in his first 7 month's due to him and his staffs incompetence
Trump backs off peace talks
Trump Declares Afghan Peace Talks With Taliban ‘Dead’ (Published 2019)
The president also signaled he would withdraw United States troops from America’s longest war, following the collapse of a monthslong effort to ease violence in Afghanistan.www.nytimes.com
Taliban kills a bunch of people including American
Taliban suicide bomber kills at least 26 at Afghan president campaign rally
A deadly day in Afghanistan as US-Taliban peace talks stall and Afghanistan prepares for presidential elections.www.vox.com
Trump comes back to the table anyways only to have the Taliban attack our base one day later:
Taliban claim suicide car bombing at Bagram military base, killing 2 and wounding over 70
A Taliban suicide car bomber hit a medical facility at Bagram military base in Afghanistan, killing one and wounding 65. Security operations are still ongoing.abcnews.go.com
Talks have a "brief pause" after they attack our base
US-Taliban talks ‘pause’ after suicide attack on American airbase
The assault on Bagram base came despite the resumption of US-Taliban talks days before in Qatar.www.aljazeera.com
And then immediately resume...to sign a peace accord:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVTUoppnI4
This deal was overwhelmingly favorable to the Taliban.
But at no point did the Taliban stop acting up except after this favorable peace of accord. Part of this negotiation strategy was to continue from a point of strength and making the whole war politically unpalatable. They continued bombings and then backed off after they got thousands released and secured their future.
They only ramped up the bombings again when Biden extended the deadline past May in an attempt to make it look like a coordinated and non-rushed leave. It could have been even worse if we had left in May, although it probably wouldn't have made an appreciable difference in Taliban takeover.
I think the time has gone. If the Taliban have the land without conflict it becomes an invasion. Not good for voters. Biggest chance was earlier when the 5000 troops and 600 Brits were supposed to show up. A stray bullet from either side and it turns into a conflict. Not heard fuck all about any skirmishes with the Taliban or the troops tho.The constant whiplash of draw down and surge and draw down and surge even made people skeptical that we would actually leave this time.
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That's an easy thing to state for the sidelines when you negotiated towards a peace deal immediately after the Taliban kills an American.
@John Lee Pettimore has sent me this video detailing his thoughts on Afghanistan Why?
I'm glad we left too. But the way he did it has embarrased america
What could be different? 6 months ago, 6 months from now? A year from now?
He already has in a way. He had to send more troops. When the taliban starts releasing videos of interpreters being beheaded biden might have to pull an obama and save the day.
Dont play dumb doctor
I'm not. If we had left 10 years ago 5 years ago 1 year ago 1 year from now I see essentially the same result with only a gray variation of timeline based on where the Taliban was on structuring their forces. However the system in place with the Afghan government makes this result inevitable in months if not days every single time.
So that's something I do agree should have been managed. But it should have been managed with the peace talks. The peace talks occurred with a final signing February 2020. Biden should have secured those who served along our guys, but so should have Trump. But do you really think Trump was going to move thousands of Afghans to the US?
Sure I called this page one or so. Public outcry to the horror will force the west to go back and save the day.
Opiates are full of shit. I did 8 at a time for days in a row last week and it didn't even make me a heron fiend.
I do know a guy by chance...
I'm just messing. I diddnt need those things to start with because I'm rock hard, but once I figured out what happened when I did shit loads at once and drank beers I can see how they could become addictive. Gave me a right good tingle and made me sleepy.
The third world is gonna third world no matter what.
