The Great Outdoors

[Rambo John J]

This guy was attacked recently but only suffered scratches. Only the second known attack of a human by a panther. I imagine it was a smaller panther but also the guy is from Florida and we don't take any shit.

Definitely would've killed a northern pussy like @Hauler

Florida Panther Mauls Turkey Hunter

second in florida

many more attacks in the "northern pussy" states

 

[Rambo John J]

 

[member 3289]

second in florida

many more attacks in the "northern pussy" states

If they're not in Florida they're not called panthers. That's why I didn't say mountain lion or cougar, goof.

The Florida panther population is the only extant cougar population in the eastern U.S. Northern states in the northeast or midwest east of the Mississippi are the only states considered "northern states".

No one gives a fuck about the west coast.

 

[Rambo John J]

If they're not in Florida they're not called panthers. That's why I didn't say mountain lion or cougar, goof.

The Florida panther population is the only extant cougar population in the eastern U.S. Northern states in the northeast or midwest east of the Mississippi are the only states considered "northern states".

No one gives a fuck about the west coast.

interesting

I have seen 3 of em

they call em cougars or mountain lions over and up here

have seen 4 bobcats here, cute lil fuckers

wild cats are so damn sneaky

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

If they're not in Florida they're not called panthers. That's why I didn't say mountain lion or cougar, goof.

The Florida panther population is the only extant cougar population in the eastern U.S. Northern states in the northeast or midwest east of the Mississippi are the only states considered "northern states".

No one gives a fuck about the west coast.

It's worth noting that "extinct" is a scientific term rather than a literal one. They're known to travel over large ranges, and we have them in Ontario. Where I live they're supposed to have been extirpated, but they still show up in camera traps from time to time.

 

[member 3289]

interesting

I have seen 3 of em

they call em cougars or mountain lions over and up here

have seen 4 bobcats here, cute lil fuckers

wild cats are so damn sneaky

They're called mountain lions in most states, I've noticed. In writing people alternate between mountain lion and cougar as cougar sounds more "correct" and is definitely less ambiguous to most people. Canadians by and large seem to call them cougars.

I've never seen a Florida panther. It is apparently not that uncommon in rural Collier County nowadays even though the population is a
only estimated at 300 (up from about 20-30 individuals in the early 90s before 8-10 female mountain lions from Texas were brought in and released to diversify the gene pool).

I'm too far east in Broward County and in far too urbanized of an area:

I've seen a bobcat twice - once while driving and once on a nature walk. If I lived in a rural area it would probably happen more often. My youngest brother lives in Polk County and has seen one crossing a road at dusk.

 

[member 3289]

It's worth noting that "extinct" is a scientific term rather than a literal one. They're known to travel over large ranges, and we have them in Ontario. Where I live they're supposed to have been extirpated, but they still show up in camera traps from time to time.

@Lars told me there were cougars in Ontario and I just figured he was full of shit (most of what he spouts is pure nonsense) until I read about these camera trap sightings.

Interesting to say the least, eh?

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

@Lars told me there were cougars in Ontario and I just figured he was full of shit (most of what he spouts is pure nonsense) until I read about these camera trap sightings.

Interesting to say the least, eh?

Yeah, man.

I saw once while I was driving to Toronto wandering down the side of the road, it's a story I rarely share because it sounds like bullshit, but it was out in the open, and there's not really any mistaking that. There were stories of the MNR here releasing a bunch of them here a few years back, and that coincides with the advent of the sightings but who knows.

 

[member 3289]

Yeah, man.

I saw once while I was driving to Toronto wandering down the side of the road, it's a story I rarely share because it sounds like bullshit, but it was out in the open, and there's not really any mistaking that. There were stories of the MNR here releasing a bunch of them here a few years back, and that coincides with the advent of the sightings but who knows.

Releasing them would probably help control coyote populations, though gray wolves (purebred) would be much more effective at that.

 

[member 1013]

@Lars told me there were cougars in Ontario and I just figured he was full of shit (most of what he spouts is pure nonsense) until I read about these camera trap sightings.

Interesting to say the least, eh?

You asshole there is a confirmed breeding female in my valley

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Releasing them would probably help control coyote populations, though gray wolves (purebred) would be much more effective at that.

The story goes that they released them to control deer populations, but I'm not really one for conspiracies. I don't think anything manages yote populations though. They're too smart.

 

[member 1013]

The story goes that they released them to control deer populations, but I'm not really one for conspiracies. I don't think anything manages yote populations though. They're too smart.

I believe a lot of them have spread east from the dakotas as well. Cougars caught in Connecticut are from there
Cougars Are Returning to the U.S. Midwest after More Than 100 Years

 

[member 3289]

The story goes that they released them to control deer populations, but I'm not really one for conspiracies. I don't think anything manages yote populations though. They're too smart.

Yeah you're right. The Yellowstone population dipped about 50% after wolves were reintroduced in 1995, but the coyotes have since rebounded (I'm sure as they've successfully adapted to sharing the ecosystem with wolves):

 

[member 1013]

Yeah you're right. The Yellowstone population dipped about 50% after wolves were reintroduced in 1995, but the coyotes have since rebounded (I'm sure as they've successfully adapted to sharing the ecosystem with wolves):

Yotes are like you

irrepressible vermin

 

[Rambo John J]

The story goes that they released them to control deer populations, but I'm not really one for conspiracies. I don't think anything manages yote populations though. They're too smart.

supposedly the more yotes you kill the larger litters they start producing...I know you have heard this

pretty interesting though

 

[member 3289]

Yotes are like you

irrepressible vermin

State Animal - Florida Department of State

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Yeah you're right. The Yellowstone population dipped about 50% after wolves were reintroduced in 1995, but the coyotes have since rebounded (I'm sure as they've successfully adapted to sharing the ecosystem with wolves)

Coyotes might be the GOAT animal. They took over the continent in less than 100 years.

They live in every state, province and major city in North America now.

 

[member 1013]

Coyotes might be the GOAT animal. They took over the continent in less than 100 years.

They live in every state, province and major city in North America now.

Yea but they wouldn’t have spread like that if we didn’t kill all the wolves and destroy so much woodland guvna

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Yea but they wouldn’t have spread like that if we didn’t kill all the wolves guvna

No, sir. Coyote populations exploded when they were targeted by the U.S. government. What wipes out wolves causes yote populations to boom. Yotes have also displaced wolves with their fancy Acme gadgets.

 

[The Big Guy]

State Animal - Florida Department of State

Honestly the wild pitbull or rooster should be our state animal.

I had a stray pit mix attack my bully recently. They were biting eachothers faces and I landed a kick on that dogs floating rib that made it pee on the spot. I threw that shit like Barboza throws a legkick. We jump anything in pompano

 

[member 1013]

No, sir. Coyote populations exploded when they were targeted by the U.S. government. What wipes out wolves causes yote populations to boom. Yotes have also displaced wolves with their fancy Acme gadgets.

What are the reasons for the expansion?
The decline of larger predators is a huge factor, according to the study. Specifically, the decrease in wolf, cougar and jaguar populations could have set the stage for “coyote colonization,” the authors said.

The authors of the study said the changing environment — from a forest landscape to an agricultural flat land — has benefited the animals.

This environmental change, “likely facilitated coyote expansion by creating suitable coyote habitat in areas that were previously unsuitable,” the authors stated.

However, it still remains unclear why coyotes favour open plains over forests.

‘Coyote colonization’: Why this canine is spreading fast across North America

their spread coincides precisely with the creation of a new ecological niche for them largely free of competition and predation by larger animals, and the transformation of the landscape into their preferred habitat.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

What are the reasons for the expansion?
The decline of larger predators is a huge factor, according to the study. Specifically, the decrease in wolf, cougar and jaguar populations could have set the stage for “coyote colonization,” the authors said.

The authors of the study said the changing environment — from a forest landscape to an agricultural flat land — has benefited the animals.

This environmental change, “likely facilitated coyote expansion by creating suitable coyote habitat in areas that were previously unsuitable,” the authors stated.

However, it still remains unclear why coyotes favour open plains over forests.

‘Coyote colonization’: Why this canine is spreading fast across North America

their spread coincides precisely with the creation of a new ecological niche for them largely free of competition and predation by larger animals, and the transformation of the landscape into their preferred habitat.

So this guy's just pretending that Alaska and the Yukon don't exist? Oh, God, they're still using the term "Coywolves" too.

I know you're essential, but it's a long weekend, get the audiobook of "Coyote America" you'll thank me later. You too @conor mcgregor nut hugger

 

[member 1013]

Honestly the wild pitbull or rooster should be our state animal.

I had a stray pit mix attack my bully recently. They were biting eachothers faces and I landed a kick on that dogs floating rib that made it pee on the spot. I threw that shit like Barboza throws a legkick. We jump anything in pompano

I really like u

So this guy's just pretending that Alaska and the Yukon don't exist? Oh, God, they're still using the term "Coywolves" too.

I know you're essential, but it's a long weekend, get the audiobook of "Coyote America" you'll thank me later. You too @conor mcgregor nut hugger

ill check it out, and I don’t doubt that they breed larger litters when threatened, but the conditions being favourable for their expansion eastward are the main factor that would allow them to take advantage of larger litters and spread so quickly.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

ill check it out, and I don’t doubt that they breed larger litters when threatened, but the conditions being favourable for their expansion eastward are the main factor that would allow them to take advantage of larger litters and spread so quickly.

They also expanded into places where the big predators weren't hunted out. The favorable conditions for coyotes are everything.

 

[member 1013]

They also expanded into places where the big predators weren't hunted out. The favorable conditions for coyotes are everything.

Do they occupy the same position in The food chain though? They’ve always co-existed with these predators, but they have to give way to them. Also the wolf populations up their are greatly reduced and modern human work camps and settlements provide them a new habitat there