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I've been going back and forth for a while as to which suppressor to get for my AR. I was gonna get the DeadAir Sandman but then recently saw a couple others of interest, including the one I decided to get; Otter Creek Labs Polonium 5.56 suppressor. It's about half the cost of the other suppressors but got competitive reviews. Going in to fill out the Form 4 and then the countdown clock officially starts -- as to when it will be out of 'AFT' jail and back home with me.
The process has changed since I got my .22lr suppressor so I thought I'd document it for those that might be getting one soon.
You will need to create a free account with Silencer Shop. I initially created it at my local shop on their Kiosk but I think you can create one on their site in advance, if so, I recommend you do. You will also need to download their free app to your smart phone. I also recommend you purchase toward the start of the week and not on Friday, as I did, because of the weekend and 'AFT' not processing stuff over the weekened, at least according to my local shop.
09/20 [Friday] Purchased suppressor and tax stamp. Local shop makes a photocopy of my drivers license and conceal carry license (I voluntarily provided the CHL). Jump on Kiosk and complete approx 15 backgroud questions -- typical stuff....u a felon? On the run? US citizen? and etc. My fingerprints were already on file so I went straight to the questions but if you a virgin, u will be digitally printed if they have a kiosk.
I forgot to add, in the beginning the Kiosk asked me to scan their digital code with my phone, which I then had to log in to my Silencer Shop app on my phone (make sure you remember your login info and password). I can't remember if it was before or after the questions but I also had to retake my profile pic. I think it's only valid for a year and it's been several years since I bought my .22lr suppressor. The guy at the shop took my pic with my phone, while using the Silencer Shop app and it uploaded to their system.
The shop gave me a print out of what to expect and told me to check my email, including junk folder, within a couple of days after the weekend and proceed from there. On the printed list it included creating a free account with the 'AFT'. This registers your address and contact information. They stress to make sure it is the same info that is on your Silencer Shop account. I did that as soon as I got home.
09/23 [Monday] Received Docusign via email. It verifies the legal questions I answered as well as my address was all correct. I think there were 2 - 3 places I had to digitally sign. The Docusign is from Silencer Shop. On this same day I also received a confirmation email from the 'AFT' that my free account was created.
09/26 [Thursday] Received an email that my form 4 is ready. From my understanding, I have 2 options. 1) Call my local shop and do it together over the phone and physically over the Internet. 2) I go down to the shop and do it from there. I will be going with option #2 cause I want to minimize any fuck ups on my part. Supposedly once that is done the countdown clock starts.
My previous experience; all the Kiosk and paperwork was filled out when I purchased my suppressor and tax stamp and then I think I got emails confirming they were accepted and being reviewed and maybe a final email telling me the countdown clock started. This was under the old system and it took just a little over a year. Even though I did it on the Kiosk it was during the time they were making changes so I was later told that it was similar to the traditional all paper application, hence mine taking a little over a year.
Some additional cost considerations for those virgin suppressor buyers. My .22lr suppressor is direct thread; take off muzzle device and screw on suppressor. My AR is QD or direct thread but not removing the muzzle device but attaching it onto the muzzle device. Plus and minuses for both options so do your own research and decide what is best 4 u. I went with direct thread. Unfortunately my current A2 flash hiders on my AR's won't work so I have to buy 2 new ones. My local shop provided me with what I need and unfortunately they're out of stock so I had to get online from a couple of other places. I also need to get a thread adaptor for the suppressor to work with the new flash hiders. He provided me with brand he recommended and the corresponding size/thread pitch.
It took a while but I found 2 different places online and ordered the 2 flash hiders from one place and the thread adaptor from another because they're sold out at a lot of places. They're made by Rearden Manufacturing. I also ordered some Rocksett off of Amazon so all the stuff should arrive before my suppressor does so they'll all be installed, except the suppressor thread adaptor.
Thought I'd share the process for those that haven't bought in a while or are buying for the 1st time. This process may change because I do not recall getting any notifications of them changing the process when I bought my .22lr suppressor to what they're currently doing.
Updated: Just got back from my local shop and competed the eform 4. U check yes or no to the same questions they previously asked u, when u did the Kiosk and u need your user ID and 4 digit PIN from your 'AFT' account u previously created. The shop inputs some info as well and submit. Total process once he opened the eform was a couple of minutes.
Countdown clock officially starts until my new baby is out of 'AFT' jail.
09/29 [Sunday] Received email that my Form 4 has been approved.
The process has changed since I got my .22lr suppressor so I thought I'd document it for those that might be getting one soon.
You will need to create a free account with Silencer Shop. I initially created it at my local shop on their Kiosk but I think you can create one on their site in advance, if so, I recommend you do. You will also need to download their free app to your smart phone. I also recommend you purchase toward the start of the week and not on Friday, as I did, because of the weekend and 'AFT' not processing stuff over the weekened, at least according to my local shop.
09/20 [Friday] Purchased suppressor and tax stamp. Local shop makes a photocopy of my drivers license and conceal carry license (I voluntarily provided the CHL). Jump on Kiosk and complete approx 15 backgroud questions -- typical stuff....u a felon? On the run? US citizen? and etc. My fingerprints were already on file so I went straight to the questions but if you a virgin, u will be digitally printed if they have a kiosk.
I forgot to add, in the beginning the Kiosk asked me to scan their digital code with my phone, which I then had to log in to my Silencer Shop app on my phone (make sure you remember your login info and password). I can't remember if it was before or after the questions but I also had to retake my profile pic. I think it's only valid for a year and it's been several years since I bought my .22lr suppressor. The guy at the shop took my pic with my phone, while using the Silencer Shop app and it uploaded to their system.
The shop gave me a print out of what to expect and told me to check my email, including junk folder, within a couple of days after the weekend and proceed from there. On the printed list it included creating a free account with the 'AFT'. This registers your address and contact information. They stress to make sure it is the same info that is on your Silencer Shop account. I did that as soon as I got home.
09/23 [Monday] Received Docusign via email. It verifies the legal questions I answered as well as my address was all correct. I think there were 2 - 3 places I had to digitally sign. The Docusign is from Silencer Shop. On this same day I also received a confirmation email from the 'AFT' that my free account was created.
09/26 [Thursday] Received an email that my form 4 is ready. From my understanding, I have 2 options. 1) Call my local shop and do it together over the phone and physically over the Internet. 2) I go down to the shop and do it from there. I will be going with option #2 cause I want to minimize any fuck ups on my part. Supposedly once that is done the countdown clock starts.
My previous experience; all the Kiosk and paperwork was filled out when I purchased my suppressor and tax stamp and then I think I got emails confirming they were accepted and being reviewed and maybe a final email telling me the countdown clock started. This was under the old system and it took just a little over a year. Even though I did it on the Kiosk it was during the time they were making changes so I was later told that it was similar to the traditional all paper application, hence mine taking a little over a year.
Some additional cost considerations for those virgin suppressor buyers. My .22lr suppressor is direct thread; take off muzzle device and screw on suppressor. My AR is QD or direct thread but not removing the muzzle device but attaching it onto the muzzle device. Plus and minuses for both options so do your own research and decide what is best 4 u. I went with direct thread. Unfortunately my current A2 flash hiders on my AR's won't work so I have to buy 2 new ones. My local shop provided me with what I need and unfortunately they're out of stock so I had to get online from a couple of other places. I also need to get a thread adaptor for the suppressor to work with the new flash hiders. He provided me with brand he recommended and the corresponding size/thread pitch.
It took a while but I found 2 different places online and ordered the 2 flash hiders from one place and the thread adaptor from another because they're sold out at a lot of places. They're made by Rearden Manufacturing. I also ordered some Rocksett off of Amazon so all the stuff should arrive before my suppressor does so they'll all be installed, except the suppressor thread adaptor.
Thought I'd share the process for those that haven't bought in a while or are buying for the 1st time. This process may change because I do not recall getting any notifications of them changing the process when I bought my .22lr suppressor to what they're currently doing.
Updated: Just got back from my local shop and competed the eform 4. U check yes or no to the same questions they previously asked u, when u did the Kiosk and u need your user ID and 4 digit PIN from your 'AFT' account u previously created. The shop inputs some info as well and submit. Total process once he opened the eform was a couple of minutes.
Countdown clock officially starts until my new baby is out of 'AFT' jail.
09/29 [Sunday] Received email that my Form 4 has been approved.
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My first question would be is it something you are actually going to use, and what kinda glass and how much ammo does it come with.
The semi auto Barretts, while cool AF, with out hand loads and just using random .50BMG are 3-4ish MOA on a good day.
I mean even at only 1k yards, with out good ammo, that could easily mean you could be looking at two E type silhouettes width of "I hope it hits here", huh that felt like a great shot, fuck me kinda shooting.
With good ammo, you can certainly cut that down quite a bit. And there is something to be said for a "what cover bitch" rifle, that you can also reach out there with. And they are honestly just fun rifles, that basically IMO feel like shooting three inch magnum slugs out of a 12 gauge, with a big fuck off projo behind it.
Basically I would say that's a lot of coin to shell out on a meh accuracy with out rolling your own, that's expensive to feed either way, and is more of a novelty than anything.
If it's something you think is really cool, and don't mind dropping the coin? Send it. But man, you could get into a nice custom/semi custom bolt gun in a modern long range projo, and throw some decent glass on it for that price.
You could get into a high quality precision gas gun and good glass etc for that kinda coin too.
You could buy a shit load of 9mm and 5.56 and .308 etc etc.
Great post, I have no interest in it, I have enough toys in the safe, just curious what your guys thoughts were on the price.
That makes sense! With out knowing how much ammo, what kind, and what else it comes with say optics wise, his price is high.
The market has gotten kinda weird on those and the prices have really seemed to drop in the last few years it looks like. I feel even three or four years ago new in box they were still well over 10k. I'm pretty sure that when my retarded coworker was looking at a used one it was at least 8k. Only other gun he had was a .50AE Desert Eagle 😂😂😂 He was like I want a rifle, and I'm thinking about a Barrett lolol.
We were like man who the fuck are you, are we in the Sinaloa Cartel and no one told us yet? What's next a blinged out 1911 in .38 super?
I imagine people have been sitting on a good supply of the Barretts for a hot min and are finally like fuck it we need to recoup that money.
Barretts price on them have probably dropped as well as I can't imagine the market for big fuck off expensive to buy, out fit and shoot rifles is super hot these days. I suppose outside of dudes who don't care about money. Or they are into ELR stuff, and those dudes aren't buying Barretts they are buying crazy ass bolt guns in modern calibers lol.
And I imagine various Mil contracts and purchases these days are also favoring other stuff. So really how many of their legacy rifles are they actually selling these days lol.
The market has gotten kinda weird on those and the prices have really seemed to drop in the last few years it looks like. I feel even three or four years ago new in box they were still well over 10k. I'm pretty sure that when my retarded coworker was looking at a used one it was at least 8k. Only other gun he had was a .50AE Desert Eagle 😂😂😂 He was like I want a rifle, and I'm thinking about a Barrett lolol.
We were like man who the fuck are you, are we in the Sinaloa Cartel and no one told us yet? What's next a blinged out 1911 in .38 super?
I imagine people have been sitting on a good supply of the Barretts for a hot min and are finally like fuck it we need to recoup that money.
Barretts price on them have probably dropped as well as I can't imagine the market for big fuck off expensive to buy, out fit and shoot rifles is super hot these days. I suppose outside of dudes who don't care about money. Or they are into ELR stuff, and those dudes aren't buying Barretts they are buying crazy ass bolt guns in modern calibers lol.
And I imagine various Mil contracts and purchases these days are also favoring other stuff. So really how many of their legacy rifles are they actually selling these days lol.
I sold some stuff and have some money burning a hole in my pocket. Leaning towards a new piece. Haven't narrowed it down at all. I don't need anything. I have an AR, .308, 12 gauge pump and semi auto, couple pistols. IF I get something, I am leaning towards a pistol caliber carbine for fun and cheap shooting, Henry lever action, another pistol, maybe 1911, or another 12 gauge.
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I have a 5.5" ar9 that is a lot of fun to shoot.
If you're thinking of a pistol caliber Henry, be prepared to want to buy a single action revolver to match it. I have 2 Ruger .44 Specials and 2 Ruger .32's and still feel like I have to buy a Ruger .45LC to go with my Uberti .45 lever. Lol
1911's are my favorite firearm of all time so I would go with that. Lol. I have 1 that I inherited from my grandpa, 1 that I inherited from my dad, and 1 of my own and I still want more.
I think I'm up to 6 12 ga's now. A single shot, a lever action, a couple pumps and a couple semi's. I'm getting the itch for a 1301, but it will probably be behind a lot of other shit honestly.
If you aren't in the need for anything, I would get something that you've always wanted and don't have or something that you think will be the most fun.
We are on the same page. I went to Cabela's today to fondle some guns. Didn't care for the SIG p320 specter comp (actually I wouldn't say I didn't care for it, just underwhelmed) held a Kimber kds9c that I really liked and a Kimber rapide. If I go that route it will be with the idea of an heirloom and will not be carried. Occasionally taken to the range. I asked if they had any pccs and the guy handed me a Henry homesteader 9mm. I liked that a lot. It's in the running.
Missing the gang...hows everybody doing? Remember our posts and Jed's class a few months back?
I'm sippin bourbon and working short (7in) striking then dropit to 17in length. Gonna be riding from Ca to Az with no gun next month. This moves so fast it whistles....the important thing is not whacking yourself like a fuckstick. Kobudo FTW All I'll have is my bad attitude, 7.8oz auto lock and sling and my cane strapped to my motorcycle. The guy I'm travelling with is baaaaad news too....it'll be fun. What could go wrong.Hope you guys are well....I'll pour another for the OGGC!🥃
17in is the max b/c the loop is dropped behind from thumb, an dlooped across palm.
Gripped used to hammerfist...good for swipe&strike or cycles. As a flail, 1st drop gives you 7in...second drop 17. Sneaky use...off one leg of the X bottom diagonal to top. Drop and second folloup reverse on the downward leg if you need more reach cause they fell back....you adjust for range as needed with arm and footwork.
My wife used to joke all I'm good for is the apocolypse.....she was right. All I could do was watch her die. Time for another drink of Weller 107
Gripped used to hammerfist...good for swipe&strike or cycles. As a flail, 1st drop gives you 7in...second drop 17. Sneaky use...off one leg of the X bottom diagonal to top. Drop and second folloup reverse on the downward leg if you need more reach cause they fell back....you adjust for range as needed with arm and footwork.
My wife used to joke all I'm good for is the apocolypse.....she was right. All I could do was watch her die. Time for another drink of Weller 107
back when 10mm came out.....that was badass full[power loads. I was alllways of the opinion it'd make a great subgun cal.