Why do females think they can hit men and expect no consequences?

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Leigh

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Because of capability towards strength no male can reasonably answer that. Yes, violent but equal is as lame as separate but equal. It's impossible. Why can't men be expected to be the better person when it comes to violence?
Because gender is a protected class and prohibiting one gender from being able to defend themselves is morally reprehensible.
 

Emmery Myers

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You said you couldn't fault him but you also said you found that stance difficult.

You have only advocated self defence in the most extreme situations and by then it may be too late.

We have NO commonality on this issue. You think that if a woman hits a guy, he should walk away. This encourages her behaviour and I 100% oppose this view. Women hitting men is dangerous to BOTH genders and should not be tolerated.
I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

If you think its up to the man, or the victim, to discourage violence with violence, we def have no commonality. It isn't the responsibility of men to "correct" women by hitting them back. Hitting back encourages violence moreso than nonaggression anyway, but read up on the issue. I'll try not to focus on the creepy vibe "this encourages her behavior" gives.

The difference in our understanding is the level of research we've done on the topic. You're slightly deficient on the issue and are just trying to apply broadstroke ethics to a nuanced problem within our society. I understand your position and held it myself before I learned more on the topic. If you research the issue and still disagree and have an actual social-psychological response to the question I am making beyond what you said I'll entertain more but otherwise agree to disagree.

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Emmery Myers

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Because gender is a protected class and prohibiting one gender from being able to defend themselves is morally reprehensible.
Poor oppressed men. Those special sad little snowflakes.

Ok now im seriously out of this debate.
 

Leigh

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Poor oppressed men. Those special sad little snowflakes.

Ok now im seriously out of this debate.
You should be. You resort to sarcasm and trying to belittle me, when you have less experience than me in the issues you debate (racism and self defence). You are not as smart as you seem to think you are and you struggle to maintain a logical argument, as evidenced by your strawman of posting DV links in a discussion about self defence.
 

Leigh

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Seriously, your sarcastic reply is effectively saying, "men are privileged so they don't deserve rights." It's banal.
 

OhWhopDaChamp

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You said you couldn't fault him but you also said you found that stance difficult.

You have only advocated self defence in the most extreme situations and by then it may be too late.

We have NO commonality on this issue. You think that if a woman hits a guy, he should walk away. This encourages her behaviour and I 100% oppose this view. Women hitting men is dangerous to BOTH genders and should not be tolerated.
You are not the arbitrator of acceptable female behavior. Just deal. You don't automatically deserve a justification of anything. If a person chooses to engage your sanctimonious questions, it's a choice. Just deal. You're still important
 

Emmery Myers

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You should be. You resort to sarcasm and trying to belittle me, when you have less experience than me in the issues you debate (racism and self defence). You are not as smart as you seem to think you are and you struggle to maintain a logical argument, as evidenced by your strawman of posting DV links in a discussion about self defence.
I unwatched the thread, but it still apparently shows quoted replies. I am done debating the nuts and bolts. I offered you the ability to enhance your understanding of the issue by giving you access to the literal system which generated and explains my beliefs on the actual matter at hand. If you decline to look at it, that suggests things about your motives. I'd ask you to read about it to better understand what I can't explain to you.

I don't know why you're deep in your feelings now dude. We've had some good discussion, but you're straight up pouting here over a disagreement. Tighten up. I like you and don't want us to get all personal bro but im not great at coddling mufuckas on cage fighting forums. Maybe its a me problem but seriously I am not gonna powder ya ass. Tighten up. Nobody is taking white people, male, christian, rich people or any other dominant groups rights away by acknowledging privilege and you know that man. Im not coming at you heavy. I said agree to disagree a few times. Be chill.

This debate has gone as far as it can, so why don't we discuss what is really important like how Bellator is NOT going to last very long at their current rate.
 

Leigh

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You are not the arbitrator of acceptable female behavior. Just deal. You don't automatically deserve a justification of anything. If a person chooses to engage your sanctimonious questions, it's a choice. Just deal. You're still important
I have no idea what you're referring to or talking about.
 

ThatOneDude

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You are not the arbitrator of acceptable female behavior. Just deal. You don't automatically deserve a justification of anything. If a person chooses to engage your sanctimonious questions, it's a choice. Just deal. You're still important
Oh, this goes both ways.
 

Leigh

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I unwatched the thread, but it still apparently shows quoted replies. I am done debating the nuts and bolts. I offered you the ability to enhance your understanding of the issue by giving you access to the literal system which generated and explains my beliefs on the actual matter at hand. If you decline to look at it, that suggests things about your motives. I'd ask you to read about it to better understand what I can't explain to you.

I don't know why you're deep in your feelings now dude. We've had some good discussion, but you're straight up pouting here over a disagreement. Tighten up. I like you and don't want us to get all personal bro but im not great at coddling mufuckas on cage fighting forums. Maybe its a me problem but seriously I am not gonna powder ya ass. Tighten up. Nobody is taking white people, male, christian, rich people or any other dominant groups rights away by acknowledging privilege and you know that man. Im not coming at you heavy. I said agree to disagree a few times. Be chill.

This debate has gone as far as it can, so why don't we discuss what is really important like how Bellator is NOT going to last very long at their current rate.
I'm not deep into feelings and I'm not asking you to mollycoddle me. You're making another logical faux pas (ad hominem) and I'm explaining the futality of that path to you.
 

Emmery Myers

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I told him exactly what you tell people....I just use pictures because I like pictures
No, you were using sarcasm to belittle me and that really hurts. But I am NOT ASKING to be mollycoddled! Just held. I wanna be the little spoon ok?
 

Leigh

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No, you were using sarcasm to belittle me and that really hurts. But I am NOT ASKING to be mollycoddled! Just held. I wanna be the little spoon ok?
You've done a great job of adding credibility to your argument.

THAT'S sarcasm
 

Emmery Myers

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You've done a great job of adding credibility to your argument.

THAT'S sarcasm
While it should be obvious I've left the actual debate behind, and am just fucking around, this joke was still a lose lose in some contexts, because initially I was going to say at the bottom "LOL Leigh jk bro" to keep you from being butthurt in the response, but coddling you like that after a coddling discussion opened the doors to you being offended by the coddling itself. So I opted to leave the jay kay bro disclaimer out.

Look, I apologize for being sarcastic and mean.

I leave you to ponder if I was sarcastic there or not.
 

Leigh

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You're just embarrassing yourself. You should really stop.
 

OhWhopDaChamp

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Get the fuck all the way out of here. A person who can't attribute validation of opposing opinions ain't worth shit. I need more wine and am
I wild each it is generally pretty salty imo. Gotta default to Mel on that also
he's quite non salty with non bossy females and bros. real talk.