Going off the stated public opinion (a few here, and largely in other public forums like Twitter, IG, FB, etc) that owning an AR-15 is a "God given right"... I was pointing out the issue I had with that highly illogical (I guess I should state IMO) sentiment.
None taken, doesn't matter one way or the other to me... But these are the talk points brought up by the supporters of 2A in a lot of social forums as a defense to guns.... Again, you jumped on @conor mcgregor nut hugger for his opinion, I've just been pointing out the flawed logic (publicly, not YOU specifically) of AR-15 defenders and 2A enthusiasts.
Which is why I've asked if that idea is predicated on the notion that someone who's deemed crazy is too dangerous to own a firearm. You seem reluctant to answer. I've also asked why you believe the AR15 in particular is problematic.
If Old Testament >> New Testament...well, you're not going to like the way God treats people...or expects them to treat each other.
One of the rare cases where the sequel is better than the original.
you're all over the place...the Constitution is the law. The law says that because 'men in fancy hats' get to have arms, the people get to have the same arms. The moral authority to write a Constitution stems from the acknowledgment that all men have equal rights, which they may not be deprived of without due process.
Do I feel that someone who is crazy is too dangerous to own a firearm?.... Personally, Yes, because the only consistency you get with crazy is unpredictable behavior.
your first mistake is generalizing all crazy people as violent.
If that's the case, why let them walk the streets at all?
But there are countless other firearms that meet all those criteria.
and that's the crux of the problem. It's like saying "Well, a lot of car accidents involve Honda Civics. So let's ban Honda Civics and make the roads safer."
The whole point is that this WHOLE TOPIC is all over the place.... As much as AR supporters and 2A enthusiasts mock "liberal snowflakes", their arguments range from God Given Right, to everyone has the right, to whatever they want to pivot into to support their beliefs.
They have banned vehicles that were problematic.
Are all crazy people violent? No..... Are all violent people crazy?
i just laid out the the argument that people who favor Rule of Law support. Now you want to equate consumption of a beverage with the right to protect yourself from others...but you think LEOs should get a pass? You think LEOs are vetted, trained, and accountable? Do you watch the news?
@T-City Parks/Rec Director and
@ConorMcGregorsBeard, thanks for the discussion... So you know, I'm not hating on you guys, and most of the talk points I mentioned tonight are points I've taken from the defense of the AR and 2A from other forums.
violence is not a product of mental illness in all cases. It's often the most rational action in a given situation.
I know and train plenty of well trained and vetted LEOs who suffer through all the shitty stuff that happens every time a shitty cop pulls the stuff that happens around our country.
just like the hundred million firearm owners who have to suffer through this same BS every time some naked weirdo decides to use a firearm to accomplish his violent ends.
It is ironic... The same can be said about the millions of great Muslim people, or Latinos, or Blacks... Fuck, of conservative Republicans AND liberal Democrats who all just want to live in peace and harmony, and also want their rights to have their own opinions, live their lives, embrace their differences, and not get treated like they personally killed the World's puppy
are you familiar with "single-source fallacy"?
