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Jan 21, 2015
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The tank was introduced and with that the west began its dependence on oil.
what does that have to do with the Balfour Declaration?

Incidentally, the Federal Reserve was founded just 3 years before, and WWI kicked off almost immediately after. Coincidence?

Still not really sure why you say Balfour Declaration is irrelevant to the discussion. Taking Jerusalem is the very culmination of that original concept, no?
 

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I guess this proves 1 thing

No matter who you are, we can all agree it sucks when a porn star kills herself :)
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Incidentally, the Federal Reserve was founded just 3 years before, and WWI kicked off almost immediately after. Coincidence?
If you understand the history of the Federal Reserve and America's part in WW1, yes.

Still not really sure why you say Balfour Declaration is irrelevant to the discussion. Taking Jerusalem is the very culmination of that original concept, no?
I said irrelevant given the context of the surrounding events. As I've said before and will probably say again.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
 
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If you understand the history of the Federal Reserve and America's part in WW1, yes.



I said irrelevant given the context of the surrounding events. As I've said before and will probably say again.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
really not following man, sorry

Balfour Declaration shows intent to create a state of Israel in a collusion between major world powers. State was created but incomplete (Dome of the Rock, their most cherished site). Prophecy tells of a world ruler who sits on a throne right fuckin there. Now they are finally taking it. Of course this is an absurdly over-simplified summary, there is much more to this story...

You honestly gonna chalk it all up to 'stupidity'?
 
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Pitbull9

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Why do you assume people hate jews just because they view something in a different way than you do?
Who in this thread has in anyways stated that they hate jews?
Sometimes it's really hard to tell so sometimes I try to get that out of the way before any real discussion begins.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You honestly gonna chalk it all up to 'stupidity'?
Considering that by the end of the first world war they had promised the same pieces of conquered land in the middle east to more than one group, yes. It was collusion by the world powers to make sure they'd have a hold on the natural resource they'd just created a dependence on.

Do you honestly believe that wars are fought for virtuous reasons?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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You can talk politics or religion, just be a grown up and don't take shit personal. I'd argue, the talking is needed now more than ever. It's a good practice in being mature :)
We grew up being taught to avoid talking about uncomfortable topics. Turns out we should have been taught how to have conversations.
 

Yossarian

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That's correct, yes. They've gone from being a creation of the UN to being ostracized by them.
And the revisionists now report that the UN played no role in creating Israel, claim that it is all a myth. And so history is being effectively sanatized to fit modern day narrative.
 

Yossarian

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We grew up being taught to avoid talking about uncomfortable topics. Turns out we should have been taught how to have conversations.
I am agreeing with you too much, where's the good times where we disagreed all the time. Let's talk the flu shot again shall we? (not really) :)
 

Yossarian

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Creating modern state of Israel was not a result of WWII as most people are taught to think... the concept and push for it started way before. The fact that WWII totally led to its realization is where the conspiracy hunters start looking for threads
Good observation. It is true that talks about a Jewish homeland began at the beginning of the 20th century. I believe that support for that idea stalled however and gained support back only after the horrible events of WWII regarding the concentration camps. WWII was the necessary catalyst for the creation of Israel, and that is why the WWII gets credited for it. One could argue that the Balfour declaration would be nothing but an idea if it wasn't for WWII and the Holocaust. And then the UN made it so.