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Yossarian

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Knew her cousin. Chick was racist as fuck and dog ass ugly irl, but sad to hear. We(her cousin) worked for the state together in VA and saw he posted something about it.
Maybe the dogs identified as black and took her out?
 

Yossarian

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Ya I agree. I do blame my dad 100%. He's the type of guy who loves everything about being a dog owner except actually taking care of it. It was from a line of working dogs that lived to get shit done and when my dad got him it just became crazy from being in a fenced acre lot, sad. I'd love to get another dog or two again but we're on a townhouse now and with young kids I don't have the time. Maybe in 10 years or so.
It's better when you have the time, you can have a happy dog that doesn't eat your furniture. My neighbour has a dog she just lets outside all the time, even with the cold, and we're talking about a little dog here. That thing is neglected. Thought a few times of calling humane society but what good is it going to do.
 

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This. Dogs are inherently pack animals that understand hierarchy and the dominant status of the owner ONLY IF the owner acts dominant.

If you own a dog, you have to know that you can kill that dog if it comes down to it. And it can't be a bluff, because the dog will see through that. When you're with the dog, you have to be dominant.

This is exponentially more important when dealing with large, aggressive breeds.

This is going to sound sexist but so be it - I don't think single women should own large, aggressive dog breeds.
They own them because they think the dog will be obedient to their commands. People need to understand not all dogs are the same and some have attack instncts stronger than others.
 

Banchan

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Maybe the 2 pits got into a fight with another dog or between themselves , and while trying to stop the fight they attacked her.
There is more to this story.
She may have been playing with them and they just over powered her. A lot of kids get attacked by their own dog from playing with them and the dog just doesn't know when to quit.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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A Shepard is not an aggressive dog, but it requires absolute discipline, and then you have a beautiful dog that will die for you. My brother had one of these...

..but this dog was disciplined, and I mean disciplined. That motherfucker would listen.
That looks like a Belgian rather than a Shepherd, but I digress. Shepherd's were known for being extremely aggressive in the late 80's early 90's. When word of GSD bans started circulating people moved onto Pitbulls as the official dog of "I'm a badass". People in their 60's will still happily tell you about how GSD's are not to be trusted.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Look at the Dogo Argentino. Actually bigger than a pit and has a lot of terrier bloodline, but this dog is actually extremely docile.

Why is this? Because the two Argentinean fuckers that made this dog breed were so aggressive with their breeding tactics that they quickly bred out any violent or vicious traits.

I've been around a Dogo Argentino before. I didn't have that anxious or uneasy feeling I do around pits, thinking they could snap at any moment. It seemed like a normal, friendly dog to me.
It's actually just because degens haven't yet figured out that the Dogo is a "bigger, scarier" Pitbull. Don't worry, it'll come.
 

Yossarian

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That looks like a Belgian rather than a Shepherd, but I digress. Shepherd's were known for being extremely aggressive in the late 80's early 90's. When word of GSD bans started circulating people moved onto Pitbulls as the official dog of "I'm a badass". People in their 60's will still happily tell you about how GSD's are not to be trusted.
I am aware, but they're both called shepherds. They need a lot of care, be the leader of the pack or they will challenge you.
 

Pitbull9

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This is a terrible thread. Animals are animals and pits are amazing. Things happen you can't say some of the things you guys are saying, it's wrong.
 

Nemo?

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Problem with this is that if a dog has short hair and muscles it's labeled Pitbull. I've seen multiple strata docs that ban "Pitbull types" or "bully breeds" which is just a lazy catch all. I'm not arguing the breed is innocent but it's name is far too often attached to non pitbulls to make the story easy to sell. Ever hear of an American Staffordshire Terrier getting into trouble? Doubtful, probably because it's not a great headline or spooky name like a pitbull.



If your not a dog person even a boxer can can mistaken for an Amstaf, American bulldog or pit just as easy.
Yep my dream dog is a english staffordshire terrier....but everyone will just think its a short pitbull haha.

English staffordshire terrier's were bred and mean't to be left around the kids to keep them safe.

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier, aka the Staffie, is a smooth-coated, active, and agile dog with great strength for his size. This is a courageous, extremely obedient, highly intelligent, and affectionate breed possessing a sense of humor. This, coupled with the breed’s affection for its friends—children in particular—its off-duty quietness, and its trustworthy stability, makes it a foremost all-purpose dog. He looks forward to daily exercise, and his powerful jaws enjoy a supply of sturdy chew toys. While he is a sweet-tempered, affectionate dog, his strength and determination require an experienced owner who can work with him in a firm but gentle way.



I'll probably end up with a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever.
 
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NHBStriker

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I have three pitbulls and four kids. There hasn’t been a time that I feared for my kids when they’re around my dogs. Now my dogs once in a while get into it with each other but never towards the family. Any dog at anytime can snap on their owner. It’s not just pits. I’ve seen chows fuck people up and same thing for German shepherds. Akita’s also have been known to fuck a motherfucker up. No I’m not saying every pitbull is nice but not every pitbull is going to eat their owner.
I was reading the article just yesterday and they were saying how the pit bulls were actually eating that lady’s rib cage. Now that’s some crazy shit.


You just don't get it man. How many stories do you need to read about how wonderful the pit bull was with children and then out of nowhere started mauling a child?
 

Yossarian

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You just don't get it man. How many stories do you need to read about how wonderful the pit bull was with children and then out of nowhere started mauling a child?
That's the problem, Pitbulls are sweet as fuck. Then, BAM goes the dynamite!
 

Papi Chingon

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But death by dogbites is what really matters and that is 65% coming from one breed, Pitbulls. And they are only a 6% of the dog population. It means that when you own one, you should know what you get into, because bites do not stem from aggressiveness or behavior, they stem from breeding. While other dogs may attack sooner, Pitbulls attacks are unpredictable, because it comes out of nowhere. It can't be determined how nice a Pitbull is. Centuries of breeding, and then bad breeding for the last 30 years by retards that want a badass dog.
I don't know if your 65% figure is accurate, but the statistics specifically say pitbull or pitbull-like, which includes dogs that look like pitbulls and those with pitbull in their dnatural but are not purebred. The statistics have always been misleading, yet with the labs, golden retreivers, any other breed, it is straight forward.
 

Yossarian

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I don't know if your 65% figure is accurate, but the statistics specifically say pitbull or pitbull-like, which includes dogs that look like pitbulls and those with pitbull in their dnatural but are not purebred. The statistics have always been misleading, yet with the labs, golden retreivers, any other breed, it is straight forward.
I gues not accurate enough.

The numbers for 2016:
  • 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.
  • Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016
  • Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%.
2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - DogsBite.org

They are going pretty much in detail as to what breed did what. Pitbills and the usual suspects are among the culprits.



If this was a car malfunctioning this bad it would've been discontinued. If people want to own them, fine, much like guns, there are risks involved and it requires real responsibility. Just like guns, I think people should be allowed to own them, but take responsibility and don't deny the danger, that owning this breed may someday backfire. This reality will do the breed much more service than the constant denial.
 

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You're all awesome keeping this classy, I've seen so many fights break out online about Pitbulls.
 
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My mate and his wife were bit by a Portuguese water dog they owned. He actually breeds boxers and has never been bit by one of them.

I have a Portuguese water Dog. He growled at my daughter when he was younger. I punched him so hard on the nose he never did it again. I am dominant though and he knows it. He won't take a piss without me telling him to go and have one. He is truly my best friend in the world.
 

Papi Chingon

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I gues not accurate enough.

The numbers for 2016:
  • 31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 900 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 71% (22) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.
  • Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (2), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 77% of the total recorded deaths in 2016
  • Family dogs inflicted 45% (14) of all deaths in 2016; family pit bulls accounted for 86% (12) of these deaths, up from an 11-year average of 63%.
2016 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - DogsBite.org

They are going pretty much in detail as to what breed did what. Pitbills and the usual suspects are among the culprits.



If this was a car malfunctioning this bad it would've been discontinued. If people want to own them, fine, much like guns, there are risks involved and it requires real responsibility. Just like guns, I think people should be allowed to own them, but take responsibility and don't deny the danger, that owning this breed may someday backfire. This reality will do the breed much more service than the constant denial.
25 different breeds are considered "pitbull-like", and therefore classified as pitbulls when an incident happens. There have been quite a few studies that also involved dna testing which have proved 40%-60% (average is 50% misidentification), depending upon the study, were in fact inaccurate when truly identifying the breeds. This doesn't stop the tabloids from headlining pitbulls (and they never use "pitbull-like") in their stories.

Here is a study done by university of florida (college of veterinary medicine), Michigan state (College of veterinary medicine), Jacksonville humane society, Jacksonville animal care and protective services, Tallahassee animal services, and marion county animal services:
"Shelter staff and veterinarians routinely make subjective dog breed identification based on appearance, but their accuracy regarding pit bull-type breeds is unknown. The purpose of this study was to measure agreement among shelter staff in assigning pit bull-type breed designations to shelter dogs and to compare breed assignments with DNA breed signatures. In this prospective cross-sectional study, four staff members at each of four different shelters recorded their suspected breed(s) for 30 dogs; there was a total of 16 breed assessors and 120 dogs. The terms American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, pit bull, and their mixes were included in the study definition of 'pit bull-type breeds.' Using visual identification only, the median inter-observer agreements and kappa values in pair-wise comparisons of each of the staff breed assignments for pit bull-type breed vs. not pit bull-type breed ranged from 76% to 83% and from 0.44 to 0.52 (moderate agreement), respectively. Whole blood was submitted to a commercial DNA testing laboratory for breed identification. Whereas DNA breed signatures identified only 25 dogs (21%) as pit bull-type, shelter staff collectively identified 62 (52%) dogs as pit bull-type. Agreement between visual and DNA-based breed assignments varied among individuals, with sensitivity for pit bull-type identification ranging from 33% to 75% and specificity ranging from 52% to 100%. The median kappa value for inter-observer agreement with DNA results at each shelter ranged from 0.1 to 0.48 (poor to moderate). Lack of consistency among shelter staff indicated that visual identification of pit bull-type dogs was unreliable."
Inconsistent identification of pit bull-type dogs by shelter staff. - PubMed - NCBI
  • "Pitbull-type" dogs were misidentified 60% of the time (62 were visually identified as "pitbull-type" but only 25 had DNA signatures from any of the pitbull-type breeds).
 

Yossarian

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25 different breeds are considered "pitbull-like", and therefore classified as pitbulls when an incident happens.
Pit bull. ... Pit bull is the common name for a type of dog. Formal breeds often considered in North America to be of the pit bull type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. The American Bulldog is also sometimes included.

It is used as a collection of these former pit fighters/breeds yes.

The term pit bull is often used loosely to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics, and the morphological (physical) variation amongst "bully breed" dogs makes it difficult for anyone, even experts, to visually identify them as distinct from "non-pit bulls".

And this is why they are described as Pitbulls, a collection of similar type dogs with similar genetic manipulations.

Pit bull - Wikipedia

Definition of pit bull
  1. or pit bull terrier: a muscular, short-haired, stocky dog (such as an American pit bull terrier or American Staffordshire terrier) of any of several breeds or a hybrid with one or more of these breeds that was originally developed for fighting and is noted for strength, stamina, and tenacity.
So the definition according to Merriam Webster, as well as legal definition, pitbull is used to describe a type of dog with the similar traits and characteristics. So the media is not incorrect when using the term pitbull. Neither can one call this sensationalizing when we consider the statistics. I don't see how that changes anything, in fact it's more alarming. It just shows that any type of pitbull, a mix, or related breed should be considered a risk, and require extra consideration when purchasing, owning, and training.
 

Papi Chingon

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Pit bull. ... Pit bull is the common name for a type of dog. Formal breeds often considered in North America to be of the pit bull type include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. The American Bulldog is also sometimes included.

It is used as a collection of these former pit fighters/breeds yes.

The term pit bull is often used loosely to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics, and the morphological (physical) variation amongst "bully breed" dogs makes it difficult for anyone, even experts, to visually identify them as distinct from "non-pit bulls".

And this is why they are described as Pitbulls, a collection of similar type dogs with similar genetic manipulations.

Pit bull - Wikipedia

Definition of pit bull
  1. or pit bull terrier: a muscular, short-haired, stocky dog (such as an American pit bull terrier or American Staffordshire terrier) of any of several breeds or a hybrid with one or more of these breeds that was originally developed for fighting and is noted for strength, stamina, and tenacity.
So the definition according to Merriam Webster, as well as legal definition, pitbull is used to describe a type of dog with the similar traits and characteristics. So the media is not incorrect when using the term pitbull. Neither can one call this sensationalizing when we consider the statistics. I don't see how that changes anything, in fact it's more alarming. It just shows that any type of pitbull, a mix, or related breed should be considered a risk, and require extra consideration when purchasing, owning, and training.
The pitbull terrier and American Staffordshire terrier are the same breed, but differ upon the registry (ukc recognizes the pitbull, akc recognizes the amstaff). The staffybull is not a pitbull, though similar in some characteristics. Take the rest of what is lumped into the pitbull-type and you are left with nothing other than visual identification, which is inaccurate. Someone mentioned dogo argentinio earlier in this thread. That for example could easily be be classified as pitbull-type, if identified visually (50% accuracy on average from several studies) by animal control, despite it being a completely different dog. Take a pitbull-type (pick any) and cross it with another dog, and if it displays characteristics, however faint, it is again a pitbull-type. Take a non-similar breed, and in an incident if identified (50% accuracy on average from several studies) as a pitbull-type, that is once again the news of a pitbull, without evidence other than the look. This is an issue for those of us with true pitbulls.
 

Juanandonly

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You just don't get it man. How many stories do you need to read about how wonderful the pit bull was with children and then out of nowhere started mauling a child?
I do get it but there are exceptions to every rule. I’m not saying my dogs are perfect and I’m also not willing to put my kids on the line to find out. But my dogs are family dogs and well behaved. I don’t let them run around like a bunch of crazy fucks. They are kenneled every night and when people come over they go in their kennel as well. I do that because there are a lot of people that are afraid of pit bulls or dogs in general. It’s OK to have an opinion but blasting somebody who owns that breed of dog just doesn’t make sense. Not everyone can own a squirrel as a pet.