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I just recently finished listening to an extensive podcast on executions, so I'm curious. Why should no one ever be executed?
In my opinion, the institution should not have the right to decide that someone has to die for his/her crimes, no matter how heinous those crimes are.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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In my opinion, the institution should not have the right to decide that someone has to die for his/her crimes, no matter how heinous those crimes are.
Keeping in mind that in both instances deprivation of life is the outcome. How do you reconcile that locking that person in a cage to slowly go insane for the duration of their life is a humane alternative to just ending it swiftly?
 

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How is locking someone in a cage for the rest of their life not depriving them of life?
I worked in a prison. They have movie nights, cable in their cells, video game systems, play cards and dominoes all day, free weights, basketball and other sports, etc. Literally the only concern is being locked up with other mentally unstable people so a simple argument can lead to getting stabbed
 
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In my opinion, the institution should not have the right to decide that someone has to die for his/her crimes, no matter how heinous those crimes are.
I can appreciate that concern about state overreach. Other than the irreversible nature, is there something about execution versus permanent incarceration that you think goes outside the state's Authority?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I worked in a prison. They have movie nights, cable in their cells, video game systems, play cards and dominoes all day, free weights, basketball and other sports, etc. Literally the only concern is being locked up with other mentally unstable people so a simple argument can lead to getting stabbed
It sounds like your prison was broken.
 
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I'll weigh in here.

Pedophiles and Child killers should be executed.

My 2 cents.
 
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Instead of being an enigma why don't you tell us the reasons that you're against execution?
I'm lazy and kind of hoping he'll just stop asking me questions.

Criminals have to be punished and that punishment has to fit the crime according to the law/societal perceptions of evil at a given time.

Taking away or restricting someone's freedom is the appropriate punishment we use when a person commits a serious crime.

But I don't believe that any person or group of persons should be granted the power to decide that, on a state level, someone must die for a crime he/she has committed. This is too much power for us to have. This is going too far, and it is incredibly inhumane.

Yes, of course people, especially the family members of murder victims, are going to feel that the culprit deserves to die, but at a state level, no person should hold such immense power as to be able to decide such a thing.
 
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I'm lazy and kind of hoping he'll just stop asking me questions.

Criminals have to be punished and that punishment has to fit the crime according to the law/societal perceptions of evil at a given time.

Taking away or restricting someone's freedom is the appropriate punishment we use when a person commits a serious crime.

But I don't believe that any person or group of persons should be granted the power to decide that, on a state level, someone must die for a crime he/she has committed. This is too much power for us to have. This is going too far, and it is incredibly inhumane.

Yes, of course people, especially the family members of murder victims, are going to feel that the culprit deserves to die, but at a state level, no person should hold such immense power as to be able to decide such a thing.

Not a big deal.

My brother was murdered...He was hardly a saint... However...

The guy who done the last of it.....If you gave me 2 minutes with him I would kill the cunt with my bare hands.

Real talk
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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But I don't believe that any person or group of persons should be granted the power to decide that, on a state level, someone must die for a crime he/she has committed.
So you'd rather rot in a cell for 70 years until you die an old man than just have a bullet put in the back of your head?

punishment has to fit the crime according to the law/societal perceptions of evil at a given time.
Remember this for when you make it to the end of the episode @Splinty
 

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It sounds like your prison was broken.
That’s today’s state-of-the-art prison my dude. They’re slowly closing the old style prisons for the “hug-a-thug” versions with fancy door systems and $2m worth of video cameras. The only time you will see a classic 23hr lockdown is if the inmate is in seg at the unit or has a disciplinary issue and has been shipped to a max. The state can no longer sentence people to a max or super-max. They get to now live it up on our dime.
 

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If you killed more than one person, and it is proven with physical and scientific evidence, then I have no problem with execution. Immediatly. Having killed more than one human being, you've shown you are without a doubt a danger, and a burden to society.