That's what I'm afraid of.
Although I may not like Alex's rhetoric, I must stand up for him because they're not going to stop there. The war on conservatism is certainly on.
That's what I'm afraid of.
9/11 was most certainly government backed.I've heard him referred to as the "controlled opposition" plenty of times, but no one has ever been able to present any evidence of this. I think until someone can, I won't condemn him as such.
According to Wikipedia:
So it seems that his conspiracy-mindedness started when he was quite young and just continued from there. I know that his ex-wife has said that when 9/11 happened he immediately began talking to her about how it was a government-backed operation, so if she is being truthful then that may just be how his mind works.
That doesn't mean, of course, that he doesn't play things up for the cameras or perhaps run with stories that he doesn't totally believe in for ratings. He may do that. But based on his history it does seem like somewhere at his core he really is some version of his public persona.
It's definitely one-sided.The war on conservatism is certainly on.
I've not devoted a TON of time to it, but I have looked into 9/11 a fair amount.9/11 was most certainly government backed.
I've not devoted a TON of time to it, but I have looked into 9/11 a fair amount.
There does seem to be some weird shit surrounding the event, but I don't think George Bush was down in the basement of the WTC strapping bombs to the support columns. If there was government malfeasance, my suspicion is that it was in the form of the government knowing the attack was coming and allowing it to happen anyway.
More than anything else, my biggest issue with concluding it was a vast government conspiracy is the VAST part. Something like this would involve a hell of a lot of moving parts--which means a lot of people--and that means those people would not only have to agree to be a part of this plan but they would also have to keep the secret forever. It's not something that could be accomplished solely by the Bush family and their closest friends.Agree with you there...lol.....but how about "Neil Bush" and what his company was doing in the WTC months leading up to 9/11.
Bush Sr. meeting with Bin Laden's bro day before 9/11?
How about flash back even further in History and remember the Reagan shooting? Who tried to take out Ronald? ...
Then look up Bush Sr's close ties to that man's family.
If Ronald was to be taken out back in the early 80's ...VP Bush Sr would have taken office.
*Ask yourself if you really want to play connect the dots because it will consume you and your time.
And I'd add OKC bombing(which Alex covered on site), as well as Boston Marathon.9/11 was most certainly government backed.
I've often wondered just how legit Alex Jones is. That is, how much of what he says does he really, truly believe?
I actually became LESS skeptical of his authenticity after learning a bit more about him. Apparently he's been banging the conspiracy drum since his teens and his ex-wife, who he's been battling in a custody fight and who has no reason to legitimize him in any way, has said that the guy you see on InfoWars is the guy she lived with at home: angry, driven and seeing conspirators under every rock.
I'm not still not certain at all about his authenticity, but that did make me feel a little better simply because I'd rather the dude be real (if somewhat delusional) than just be a guy playing a role to grow his audience and make money.
Perhaps the truth is that he's a little of both.
I'm 43, he looks 20 years older than me.P.S: Does anyone really believe Jones is 44?
@HEATH VON DOOM
You know me and you know my feels, talk to me about that geezer in your av. I always meant to ask but we get caught up so I never do.
there are things deeper than govtMore than anything else, my biggest issue with concluding it was a vast government conspiracy is the VAST part. Something like this would involve a hell of a lot of moving parts--which means a lot of people--and that means those people would not only have to agree to be a part of this plan but they would also have to keep the secret forever. It's not something that could be accomplished solely by the Bush family and their closest friends.
Logistically, it's a real stretch.
Really? I've seen enough of Alex Jones to know he likely did cross the line with hate speech on those platforms.The problem is, the premise leans toward social responsibility, and they do the opposite.
People get banned because of their unpopular opinion.
Hate speech defined by, and against whom?Really? I've seen enough of Alex Jones to know he likely did cross the line with hate speech on those platforms.
Well it is their platform, so I guess it's up to their discretion on how to define it. Personally I think he's a nutcase that does more harm than good for the conservative movement. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a capitalistic one. He has his own website to promote his company and content.Hate speech defined by, and against whom?
We've covered this point of view within the thread.Well it is their platform, so I guess it's up to their discretion on how to define it. Personally I think he's a nutcase that does more harm than good for the conservative movement. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a capitalistic one. He has his own website to promote his company and content.
@ENOCK, well, I appreciate you putting all that together for me. That's solid work.
I know who Bill Cooper is, I know about his "9/11 prediction," I know about the static between him and AJ and I know about the lawyer using the defense of AJ being "a performance artist."
A few things. . .
Sure, Bill Cooper was legit, in that I think he legit believed what he said. People don't fight to the death for causes they don't really believe in. At the same time, Bill Cooper seems to have been pretty clearly full of shit in a lot of regards. I know he believed that the HIV virus was a man-made weapon to kill minorities and I know he also believed in some pretty far out there UFO conspiracies. So I'm not sure that he should be held up as a sterling barometer of truth.
Second, it would not surprise me at all if AJ stole some of his methods from Bill Cooper. It's common for younger people in a field to look up to, and emulate, older practitioners in any given field. That doesn't make members of the younger generation full of shit, though.
Third, I think that in some ways Jones IS a performance artist, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't believe in the wares he's peddling. It only means that he uses certain tactics and techniques to get his point across. Also, it's worth noting that Jones was involved in a pretty ferocious custody battle and was trying to win custody of his kids.
His ex-wife, Kelly Jones, recently did an interview where she talks about living with the real Alex Jones and she pretty much says that the man you see on InfoWars is more or less the man that she lived with even when the cameras were turned off. Feel free to interpret her comments however you'd like, but this is an interesting interview:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebByb9JJgJg
I have not, however, seen that old ass 2001 InfoWars clip though. That shit is pretty wild.