General Apple, Facebook, Spotify and Google/Youtube BAN Infowars Alex Jones

[MachidaKarate]

Senator demands MORE censorship. Says "democracy depends on it."


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=goNDSUZsQ1c

 

[Ted Williams' head]

You likely didn't see right wing groups on the move during the Obama administration in the same way as you see Antifa today because there wasn't an actual courtship of extremists by the President of the United States meriting that response. Trumpito had Bannon in his administration, still has Miller, played the "both sides" card during Charlottesville and has engaged in jingoist rhetoric as his main strategy. To pretend he's just a run of the mill conservative in office comparable to any of the last several presidents is disingenuous and doesn't situate him within the broader context of global affairs that's seen Le Pen come close to the Presidency in France, Italy's swing rightward, a sufficiently empowerered UKIP forcing Brexit and Bibi Netanyahu consolidating his apartheid rule in Israel. Nearly every leading Republican in the party agreed he was a threat to sanity and security until he won the primaries.

Further, during the Obama admin, we had Cliven Bundy and his band of merry men who bused in supporters from around the country, telling them to come armed and ready to do violence against the state. Militia groups like The Minutemen have sat taking rifle shots at crossing immigrants for decades.

In the 1960s, there were massive groups that came out to protest everything from school integration to counter protesting in favor of Vietnam. The reason you don't know their names is because they've been consigned to the dustbin of history for being so terribly wrong.

Another fundamental element missing in this discussion is that leftist groups typically organize on the basis of collective action being the only available lever to put pressure on the state, which frequently puts them into open conflict with the state. Collective efforts sometimes go awry and can manifest violently when agitating against the state, but the state has much more capacity to do violence on its citizenry, which it all too frequently has exercised.

Here is where I'll agree with you though. There are elements within today's left that have completely lost the plot and succumbed to the same nihilism they accuse those on the right of embracing. Their ideology is one of fighting, but not as interested in imagining concrete alternatives. There is great disagreement on the left about what is contra-Trump and to me there's a general failure to understand what situations on the ground really mean. The Democratic Party, never the actual left, but just the center right party in the US, has become a vehicle somewhat up for grabs in a way the GOP was in 2015-16. Still, engagement with the political process is hotly debated. The left and right of today are in oddly similar positions, struggling to find their identity.

Seems like a false equivalency at play here.

I'd love to see a few examples during the Obama administration of Democrat supporters having to fear for their safety in public, of liberal speakers and personalities having their talks and events shut down by a large group of violent right wingers. Of right wingers rioting, destroying property, and assaulting police when their candidates lost.

There's no comparing the two. There are maniacs on the right, but not nearly in the same numbers and most seem to be all talk and no action. Meanwhile, the left has no problem bringing together thousands of anarchist/communist nutjobs with bike locks and pepper spray, ready to assault any Trump supporter they can get at, in seemingly ANY city in America.

If Candace Owens was a Democrat and a group of angry white Trump supporters assaulted her at breakfast, it would have been on blast across the media. But because she's a conservative black woman getting assaulted by an angry group of whites who are quote unquote "anti-racist protestors" (lol), you couldn't hear about it anywhere but Twitter or Fox (FAUX NEWS, MAAAAAAN)

What a joke.

 

[Disciplined Galt]

Senator demands MORE censorship. Says "democracy depends on it."


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=goNDSUZsQ1c

Still nowhere near Sweden. Good luck.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Senator demands MORE censorship. Says "democracy depends on it."


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=goNDSUZsQ1c

Because we know democracy and censorship go hand it hand... lol you can't make this shit up... smh

 

[MachidaKarate]

Because we know democracy and censorship go hand it hand... lol you can't make this shit up... smh

No shit, right?

I'm sure there are plenty of people who will agree with him though. It's always amazing to me how eager people are to give up their freedoms for, presumably, some sense of safety and security.

The lesson is too easily forgotten that when those in power decide they want more power, the first thing they try to do are take away rights--like freedom of speech and the right to bear arms--that can threaten that power.

 

[MachidaKarate]

I'd love to see a few examples during the Obama administration of Democrat supporters having to fear for their safety in public, of liberal speakers and personalities having their talks and events shut down by a large group of violent right wingers. Of right wingers rioting, destroying property, and assaulting police when their candidates lost.

Yeah, that's just not really a thing, for the most part.

There were a few instances of protesters showing up to Tea Party events and getting assaulted. That is not okay, and it demonstrates a disrespect for the protesters' first amendment rights, but is still different in a few ways.

For one, it wasn't the Tea Party guys just going out into the world and fucking with people, but rather them fucking with people who decided to come into their world and disrupt their events. Also, these instances were far more limited than what we see with Antifa, where there is some new shit with those guys every other day.

There's no comparing the two. There are maniacs on the right, but not nearly in the same numbers and most seem to be all talk and no action. Meanwhile, the left has no problem bringing together thousands of anarchist/communist nutjobs with bike locks and pepper spray, ready to assault any Trump supporter they can get at, in seemingly ANY city in America.

If Candace Owens was a Democrat and a group of angry white Trump supporters assaulted her at breakfast, it would have been on blast across the media. But because she's a conservative black woman getting assaulted by an angry group of whites who are quote unquote "anti-racist protestors" (lol), you couldn't hear about it anywhere but Twitter or Fox (FAUX NEWS, MAAAAAAN)

What a joke.

100% correct.

What is particularly hilarious is that, to my understanding, the protestors were shouting something like "down with white supremacy!" to Candace Owens. The irony there is palpable.

It's as if these guys are robots who are programmed to stay on message no matter what and their AI is not sophisticated enough to adapt to specialized circumstances. So the result is white people shouting "down with white supremacy!" to black women.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

No shit, right?

I'm sure there are plenty of people who will agree with him though. It's always amazing to me how eager people are to give up their freedoms for, presumably, some sense of safety and security.

The lesson is too easily forgotten that when those in power decide they want more power, the first thing they try to do are take away rights--like freedom of speech and the right to bear arms--that can threaten that power.

They call Trump a fascist Nazi, but it seems like a lot of these high ranking Democrats would be pleased as punch to have everything right of Bill Maher censored. And they'd even keep a close eye on Bill, incase he was being a LITTLE critical of Democrats lol

100% correct.

What is particularly hilarious is that, to my understanding, the protestors were shouting something like "down with white supremacy!" to Candace Owens. The irony there is palpable.

It's as if these guys are robots who are programmed to stay on message no matter what and their AI is not sophisticated enough to adapt to specialized circumstances. So the result is white people shouting "down with white supremacy!" to black women.

Yeah I mean you really can't make this stuff up. It's like something from an Onion article, or a Mike Judge movie.

What strikes me is how people let partisan politics remove their sense of empathy and compassion. Of course there are a lot of conservatives who also do this, but it seems much more prevalent on the left now a days, which is funny.

They preach tolerance and understanding, they try to end the stigma of mental illness... yet Roseanne makes an ill-advised Tweet while on mind-altering medication to treat her mental illness, and they want to see her life ruined because she supports Trump.

You'll find no sympathy for Candace Owens, a black woman assaulted by a group of privileged white kids, because ewww she's conservative, she's not on OUR team. We can't use this to further our political agenda, so who cares? Sad!

 

[Ted Williams' head]

I hate TYT but if Cenk or Ana were treated like Candace was by some right wing group, I'd be outraged at the people who did it.

Hell, even when Alex Jones was following Bernie Sanders around the airport, I hated that shit and felt bad for Bernie, even though politically we couldn't be any more different.

But you will not find compassion for the quote unquote "other team" like this on the left! Sad but true! smh

 

[MachidaKarate]

What strikes me is how people let partisan politics remove their sense of empathy and compassion. Of course there are a lot of conservatives who also do this, but it seems much more prevalent on the left now a days, which is funny.

A bi-partisan issue for sure. People on both sides need to do a better job of trying to meet in the middle and understand the perspective of the other.

They preach tolerance and understanding, they try to end the stigma of mental illness... yet Roseanne makes an ill-advised Tweet while on mind-altering medication to treat her mental illness, and they want to see her life ruined because she supports Trump.

The Roseanne situation is/was so fucked up.

Where was the compassion? The understanding? Or as you say, the tolerance?

Too many people on the left are nothing if not inconsistent. They preach tolerance, but really what they mean is that you should tolerate what they think is tolerable and viciously lash out against whatever they dislike.

You'll find no sympathy for Candace Owens, a black woman assaulted by a group of privileged white kids, because ewww she's conservative, she's not on OUR team. We can't use this to further our political agenda, so who cares? Sad!

To them, Candace Owens = race traitor.

They took away her black card.

 

[MachidaKarate]

I hate TYT but if Cenk or Ana were treated like Candace was by some right wing group, I'd be outraged at the people who did it.

Hell, even when Alex Jones was following Bernie Sanders around the airport, I hated that shit and felt bad for Bernie, even though politically we couldn't be any more different.

But you will not find compassion for the quote unquote "other team" like this on the left! Sad but true! smh

Agree with all of that.

If we're going to celebrate freedom of speech and thought, then we must find respectful ways to disagree the opposition.

Though I admittedly laughed when Alex Jones crashed TYT's little party at the Republican National Convention. Did you see that shit? I couldn't help but find it hilarious.



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pX53AqpUs

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Agree with all of that.

If we're going to celebrate freedom of speech and thought, then we must find respectful ways to disagree the opposition.

Though I admittedly laughed when Alex Jones crashed TYT's little party at the Republican National Convention. Did you see that shit? I couldn't help but find it hilarious.



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4pX53AqpUs

I liked that one, but because it was Alex vs the entire YTY group and was more of a prank on Alex's part, which is funny.

The Bernie Sanders one, even though I agree with Alex that what Bernie said was stupid... at the end of the day Bernie is a doddering old man, and seeing a guy chase him around an airport harassing him is just bad optics.

It's like the Trump/Lebron thing... I think the stuff Lebron says about Trump is idiotic, but the guy is doing a lot of great things so Trump should have just ignored it, because he's not going to win that war. You don't have to swing at every pitch!

 

[Truck Party]

Seems like a false equivalency at play here.

I'd love to see a few examples during the Obama administration of Democrat supporters having to fear for their safety in public, of liberal speakers and personalities having their talks and events shut down by a large group of violent right wingers. Of right wingers rioting, destroying property, and assaulting police when their candidates lost.

There's no comparing the two. There are maniacs on the right, but not nearly in the same numbers and most seem to be all talk and no action. Meanwhile, the left has no problem bringing together thousands of anarchist/communist nutjobs with bike locks and pepper spray, ready to assault any Trump supporter they can get at, in seemingly ANY city in America.

If Candace Owens was a Democrat and a group of angry white Trump supporters assaulted her at breakfast, it would have been on blast across the media. But because she's a conservative black woman getting assaulted by an angry group of whites who are quote unquote "anti-racist protestors" (lol), you couldn't hear about it anywhere but Twitter or Fox (FAUX NEWS, MAAAAAAN)

What a joke.

That's not what he's saying, he's blaming Trump for Antifa b/c Obama didn't court extremist groups. Obama did give them $640 million of taxpayer dollars though, I'd say that counts as courting Judiciary Chair Claims Internal Docs Reveal Obama DOJ 'Slush Fund'

The false equivalency he's using is that he's saying the right & left are the same, & if the right didn't get violent during the Obama years it's only b/c Obama didn't give them a reason to.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

if the right didn't get violent during the Obama years it's only b/c Obama didn't give them a reason to.

Hah! For Obamacare alone...

 

[Mix6APlix]

They cant handle the truth!

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

Alex Jones is a conspiracist shill lying mega cunt, but I'm not in support of him being removed. It's not really a first amendment thing, but it is a step I'd rather not be taken and I would definitely not like any politicians who openly support this.

 

[Andrewsimar Palhardass]

The false equivalency he's using is that he's saying the right & left are the same

Well, they're both certainly shitty, childish, and wrong. The left and right constantly complain about each other's biases while ignoring their own. It's quite infuriating.

 

[kneeblock]

Seems like a false equivalency at play here.

I'd love to see a few examples during the Obama administration of Democrat supporters having to fear for their safety in public, of liberal speakers and personalities having their talks and events shut down by a large group of violent right wingers. Of right wingers rioting, destroying property, and assaulting police when their candidates lost.

There's no comparing the two. There are maniacs on the right, but not nearly in the same numbers and most seem to be all talk and no action. Meanwhile, the left has no problem bringing together thousands of anarchist/communist nutjobs with bike locks and pepper spray, ready to assault any Trump supporter they can get at, in seemingly ANY city in America.

If Candace Owens was a Democrat and a group of angry white Trump supporters assaulted her at breakfast, it would have been on blast across the media. But because she's a conservative black woman getting assaulted by an angry group of whites who are quote unquote "anti-racist protestors" (lol), you couldn't hear about it anywhere but Twitter or Fox (FAUX NEWS, MAAAAAAN)

What a joke.

The conditions on the ground of reactionism are set by the forces in power. We have a strange polarization in politics that doesn't exactly match the considerably low degree of polarization in the citizenry, and this is because of a lot of deliberate party engineering that has taken place over the years, led by the Koch Brothers, the Cato Institute and Sinclair Group on the right, and among deeply dug in political machines in places like New York ans Chicago, and several think tank apparatchiks in Washington DC. on the left. At the margins, you have the libertarians and democratic socialists applying pressure inward to make their play.

It's this that's laying out the battleground we see where tensions run high and people resort to propaganda by the deed. What you call violence is mostly spectacle from the left versus actual violence from the state, which in its own way is apolitical and interested in policing the boundaries of control as our society staggers into deeper inequality and an uncertain future for our democratic norms.

Regarding violence, you can FOIA the number of death threats the Obamas received. At one time he was receiving as many as 30 a day.

 

[jason73]

The conditions on the ground of reactionism are set by the forces in power. We have a strange polarization in politics that doesn't exactly match the considerably low degree of polarization in the citizenry, and this is because of a lot of deliberate party engineering that has taken place over the years, led by the Koch Brothers, the Cato Institute and Sinclair Group on the right, and among deeply dug in political machines in places like New York ans Chicago, and several think tank apparatchiks in Washington DC. on the left. At the margins, you have the libertarians and democratic socialists applying pressure inward to make their play.

It's this that's laying out the battleground we see where tensions run high and people resort to propaganda by the deed. What you call violence is mostly spectacle from the left versus actual violence from the state, which in its own way is apolitical and interested in policing the boundaries of control as our society staggers into deeper inequality and an uncertain future for our democratic norms.

Regarding violence, you can FOIA the number of death threats the Obamas received. At one time he was receiving as many as 30 a day.

do you think trump gets more or less than 30 a day?

 

[jason73]

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Like I figured, the war on conservatives continues. Gavin McInnes and Proud Boys account gone.

Gavin literally had that he was against racism and Nazis in his Twitter bio.

The Proud Boys were labelled as a hate group by the retards at the Southern Poverty Law Center, but in reality they were started by Gavin as a social club for conservatives/libertarians, and have many black, latino and asian members.

It's so dangerous what is going on. The left just labels you a racist or Nazi and it's taken as gospel, no matter how much you try to defend yourself or prove otherwise. Doesn't matter. You're a Nazi, you don't have the basic human right of being able to go out in public and not be assaulted. You don't get to have a platform, because you're not on the right "team".

We will see more and more of this. The left deems everyone right of Bill Maher a Nazi fascist, so this is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Splinty]

 

[Disciplined Galt]

White men were great.

 

[Truck Party]

last night Antifa attacked police & reporters in Charlottesville


View: https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1028475036842303488

 

[Rambo John J]

yep
alex is a living martyr now

ratings thru roof

was pretty easy to predict, seems orchestrated

 

[Ted Williams' head]

last night Antifa attacked police & reporters in Charlottesville


View: https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1028475036842303488