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Kav will be confirmed as Supreme Court Justice???

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  • No, the vote fails or his nomination is withdrawn


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So maybe something happened and she just has the wrong guy?
Do you really think that's a good hypothesis?
If you thought somebody was assaulting you or trying to rape you, would you forget who it was?
I don't really understand this line of thinking as I've never met somebody who was assaulted physically or sexually and then accidentally pointed the finger at somebody they knew.


if you want to go down the route that they're both telling the truth...
Or is it more likely that kinky kav was blackout drunk and doesn't remember?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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So whats the deal with the 2 separate guys who came forwards claiming they did the attack?

If this story had any legs it would be front and center right now but it seems to have gone silent.
 

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So whats the deal with the 2 separate guys who came forwards claiming they did the attack?

If this story had any legs it would be front and center right now but it seems to have gone silent.
It was a nice try with the "I am Spartacus" Rape defense. Very creative. Wonder how much they were paid.
 

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Fox News anchor says Kavanaugh case prompted his own daughters to reveal their stories | The Star
Wallace acknowledged that the allegations were not as serious as those against Kavanaugh, but, he said, “the point is that there are teenage girls who don’t tell stories to a lot of people and then it comes up.”

“And I don’t think we can disregard that,” he added. “I don’t think we can disregard Christine Blasey Ford and the seriousness of this. I think that would be a big mistake.”
 

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So whats the deal with the 2 separate guys who came forwards claiming they did the attack?

If this story had any legs it would be front and center right now but it seems to have gone silent.
If the story with ford had legs, it would have been front and center when placed in feinstein's hands in july. There is a reason why it was a final moment hail mary strategy.
 

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View: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/28/brett-kavanaugh-vote-scheduled-raju-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn


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Looks like the GOP leadership agrees with you. Pushing the vote forward for the weekend.

I don't think they have the votes right now. I also think it'll blow up in the midterms done this way.
There is no right way to do this. Look at this shit show! Don't do anything and dems delay and bring more ridiculous claims, or just get it done. Any civilized person can see there is nothing to investigate, as there are only charges, no details, evidence, or witnesses. At what point do you stop playing the never ending game?
 

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Do you really think that's a good hypothesis?
If you thought somebody was assaulting you or trying to rape you, would you forget who it was?
I don't really understand this line of thinking as I've never met somebody who was assaulted physically or sexually and then accidentally pointed the finger at somebody they knew.


if you want to go down the route that they're both telling the truth...
Or is it more likely that kinky kav was blackout drunk and doesn't remember?
She named 4 witnesses, including a lifetime friend, who all said didn't happen. Again, not to beat a dead horse, but she didn't remember when (not even the year) this happened, nor where it happened. Who was potentially blackout drunk? Was there a pool at the house or apartment party, or does she always wear a one piece bathing suit under her clothes? She doesn't know how she got there, nor how she got home, yet distinctly remembers only drinking one beer. Then we can get into present day issues, where she doesn't remember key details just weeks ago, like whether she was video taped taking the lie detector, whether her lie detector test was taken on the day of her relative's funeral (they told the lie detector guy it had to be next day because she was flying to new hampshire the following day, and next day was the day of the funeral), whether she gave he media outlet her alleged psychologist's notes, and then the hilarious claim that she couldn't come to DC to testify when requested because part of her trauma from the incident made her scared to fly (even though she was in Maryland at the time, not california as stated, and has extensive history of flying everywhere - quite often).
 
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but she didn't remember when (not even the year) this happened, nor where it happened. Who was potentially blackout drunk? Was there a pool at the house or apartment party, or does she always wear a one piece bathing suit under her clothes? She doesn't know how she got there, nor how she got home, yet distinctly remembers only drinking one beer.
I wasn't pointing at that. My post was stipulated on the same pretense as Hauler - they both are telling their truth. She was assaulted but remembers the wrong person even though she knew Kav before the incident? This is all based on some focus on the time since then. Like she maybe got assaulted, knew who it was, and then imagined it was someone else over the years. That stretches my beliefs pretty far.
 
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I wasn't pointing at that. My post was stipulated on the same pretense as Hauler - they both are telling their truth. She was assaulted but remembers the wrong person even though she knew Kav before the incident? This is all based on some focus on the time since then. Like she maybe got assaulted, knew who it was, and then imagined it was someone else over the years. That stretches my beliefs pretty far.
 

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Do you really think that's a good hypothesis?
If you thought somebody was assaulting you or trying to rape you, would you forget who it was?
I don't really understand this line of thinking as I've never met somebody who was assaulted physically or sexually and then accidentally pointed the finger at somebody they knew.


if you want to go down the route that they're both telling the truth...
Or is it more likely that kinky kav was blackout drunk and doesn't remember?
If I had to make a choice - it's probably more likely that Kav was blackout drunk. Or maybe she was? Maybe they both were. Usually you can say the only two people who know the truth are the two involved, but I don't know that you can say that here.

I have no idea.

So do you toss out 25+ years of professional excellence based on something we aren't sure on?

I go back to my original stance: I'm more concerned about the man he is today than the boy he was back then.
 
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Shinkicker

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I wasn't pointing at that. My post was stipulated on the same pretense as Hauler - they both are telling their truth. She was assaulted but remembers the wrong person even though she knew Kav before the incident? This is all based on some focus on the time since then. Like she maybe got assaulted, knew who it was, and then imagined it was someone else over the years. That stretches my beliefs pretty far.
Would you say that she repressed those memories until 2012?
 

Hauler

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Blumenthal grilling Kav on "the truth" and "credibility" was especially entertaining.

He's the piece of shit that openly lied about serving in Vietnam.

Apparently his hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
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Hauler

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So whats the deal with the 2 separate guys who came forwards claiming they did the attack?

If this story had any legs it would be front and center right now but it seems to have gone silent.
They were anonymous, right?
That's not going to stick unless there's a name.
 

Hauler

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So they vote today?

If Kav gets the nod, we will have butthurt from the left not seen since November of 2016.
 

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Haven't been following this closely, but looks like a win/win for the Democrats at this point.

If Kavanaugh is tossed, obviously that's a huge blow to Trump.

If he gets in, they have the ammunition to attack the Republicans as the party that supports (alleged) sexual predators, especially after the Roy Moore situation.
 

Hauler

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If he gets in, they have the ammunition to attack the Republicans as the party that supports (alleged) sexual predators, especially after the Roy Moore situation.
Anyone who actually watched that circus should realize how terrifying it would be if the Dems got control.

I'm a Libertarian and I will vote for whoever best shares my beliefs regardless of party, but that was an embarrassment and did not paint a very pretty picture for the Dems.

These midterms are VERY important.
 

GJdeux

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She is the expert.

Degree in Experimental Psychology
Masters Degree in Clinical Psychology
PhD in Educational Psychology
and a 2nd Masters Degree in Epidemiology

I dont think anyone of us have any ground to question her on her grasp of the human brain, trauma and memory formation.
Actually she should be very familiar with how memory gets distorted over time. In fact, while it gets more vivid and detailed, it gets more inaccurate. I think there was a 9/11 study. As the people got further away from the event, the memories were more detailed and more vivid but their memories were more inaccurate. There are a million studies out there showing that you can be persuaded to remember something that never happened. She should certainly know this. You cannot trust it-no idea why eye witness testimony is allowed. Also the others, other accusers I would say the Mandela Effect.
 

GJdeux

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I was shocked she said this. Too bad they didn't have any experts to contradict her explanation.
Actually glutamate and GABA have more to do with it. Norepinephrine has a role, but not so much at the others. For the life of me I can't remember what it's called, but she was trying to give the "expert" information. It is like when you go to a doctor, you play a role because he is in "the expert" role. She seemed to want to show that. It's from sociology so I don't remember it clearly. :)
 

GJdeux

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If the story with ford had legs, it would have been front and center when placed in feinstein's hands in july. There is a reason why it was a final moment hail mary strategy.
That is the big thing to me. The Dems had it, sat on it when an investigation could have been done, but instead they sat on it. That to me makes if very stinky