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General Impeachment inquiry launched
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Wut
Is he lying about being pressured?
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Of course he's lying. He can't look weak to his people and he has to work with Trump for another 1-5 years. Telling the truth would be really stupid.
So he’s a liar and a coward.
What’s the confusion?
did Trump withhold funds, or nah?
if he did, he violated the separation of powers. That's the abuse of power.
so do you think Donald Trump abused his power as head of the Executive?
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Where did I say he was a coward? You're putting words in my mouth.
Look no offense but your opinion on this topic is stupid as fuck and your points are worthless.
I’m talking about the Ukraine President. I don’t think he did anything more than every president in the last 200 years. Plus I give Democrats no room to talk when they were literally calling for impeachment since the day of the inauguration. 16 members of the judiciary committee voted to impeach him on July 1st before any calls. It’s obvious why we’re at this point.
I’d call a president afraid to tell his people and the world the truth a coward.
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I wouldn't
i know.
i've never disputed that it's political.
and that they've been doing it since...at least since Wilson, to varying degrees.
but we're not going to get rid of corruption by only being concerned about it when the 'other side' is doing it.
to me the answer is that Pres. Trump should be impeached and removed from office. Joe Biden should be arrested and charged.
and then let's see how deep we have to go to yank the drain plug on this swamp.
Well that’s where we disagree.
Perhaps why I’ve always been a leader in every thing I’ve ever done or been involved in.
No problem with this if everyone is held accountable.
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Just stay in Cali where your vote for President doesn't matter
i guess that's my point. I want all of this BS to stop, and it might as well start here.
Cool and you stay in Florida until you’re able to actually figure out how to count votes.
I think starting here is weak considering the call for impeachment after 2hrs in office. He was never given a chance and rewarding the loser Democrats I can’t do. Want him out vote him out and let’s start then.
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For all the places that we agree here, this one we disagree.
It does not matter what Ukraine President says. Ukraine is still in need of our cover, money, military aid.
He does not want to be involved in this and has said as much. He cannot come out and say that Trump, who might win in 2020, pressured him and still expect Republicans or Trump to bless continued support of him and his country.
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That’s fine
He’s a liar and arguably apparently a coward.
So the president knew on the calls?
but voting him out sends the message that what he did is acceptable.
it's not. it must be punished, or we risk losing the very foundation of our society.
(drama squirrel)
Wouldn’t voting him out be the people saying what he did wasn’t acceptable? On the level of what happened I rank about a 3/10 if all true. I prefer to let the people decide if it’s worth being removed from office not some other corrupt politicians.
but if you don't impeach him and remove him from office, you're saying that a sitting POTUS has carte blanche to usurp the will of the people, as expressed through their elected representatives, until the next election cycle.
you've made the law a popularity contest.
The law is a popularity contest.
Nothing that apparently happen puts us in any danger. If the worst thing that happened is aid was held for an extra month I really don’t care.
Just curious your opinion
Did Obama abuse his powers lying about being able to keep your doctors and plans to get Obamacare passed?
I don’t think a president will ever last 4 years with the broad abuse of power charge.
By the way you know I appreciate you brother and the respectful conversation.