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psychicdeath

psychicdeath

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sparkuri said:
For me it was transition/jamming.
I don't know if I'm right, but the steel seemed to act like it looked; dry?
And locked up.
Brass was smoother.
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You're right, in that steel cases against the steel surfaces of the gun produce more friction than brass cases, and needs some type of coating to cycle reliably. Since steel cases are most often used in cheap foreign (mostly Russia and Eastern Europe) ammo where they cut corners, what coating they use often isn't very good.

Also, brass is a softer and more malleable metal than steel so it seals better under pressure. It should also cause less wear and tear on the gun. For AKs and other guns that are over-engineered and known for toughness, steel cases are probably fine. For more precise guns, I'd stick to brass.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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psychicdeath said:
You're right, in that steel cases against the steel surfaces of the gun produce more friction than brass cases, and needs some type of coating to cycle reliably. Since steel cases are most often used in cheap foreign (mostly Russia and Eastern Europe) ammo where they cut corners, what coating they use often isn't very good.

Also, brass is a softer and more malleable metal than steel so it seals better under pressure. It should also cause less wear and tear on the gun. For AKs and other guns that are over-engineered and known for toughness, steel cases are probably fine. For more precise guns, I'd stick to brass.
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A lot of it is also corrosive.
 
HEATH VON DOOM

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psychicdeath said:
You're right, in that steel cases against the steel surfaces of the gun produce more friction than brass cases, and needs some type of coating to cycle reliably. Since steel cases are most often used in cheap foreign (mostly Russia and Eastern Europe) ammo where they cut corners, what coating they use often isn't very good.

Also, brass is a softer and more malleable metal than steel so it seals better under pressure. It should also cause less wear and tear on the gun. For AKs and other guns that are over-engineered and known for toughness, steel cases are probably fine. For more precise guns, I'd stick to brass.
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They use a laquer coating which will melt and buildup causing failures. The gunpowder they use is corrosive as well. Its just never worth the nickel you save to shoot steel.
 
Judobill

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I’ve had the Model 66 357 Mag for about 30 years, the FN Baby Browning .25 belonged to my Father-in-Law who passed away a few years ago. It’s actually really fun to shoot.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Judobill said:


I’ve had the Model 66 357 Mag for about 30 years, the FN Baby Browning .25 belonged to my Father-in-Law who passed away a few years ago. It’s actually really fun to shoot.
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I guess the judo isn't coming along as planned?
 
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I’ve had the Model 66 357 Mag for about 30 years, the FN Baby Browning .25 belonged to my Father-in-Law who passed away a few years ago. It’s actually really fun to shoot.
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Love that .357

I have the same one with wood grips that was my great uncle's service revolver when he was a sheriff in Kansas. Fun as hell to shoot.
 
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I use the four inch pink oboe.

it’s slow to recharge these days.

But it’s quite devastating when it hits the mark.

damage lasts nine months
 
Jdog93

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Just finished up my AR.

Well not completely.

Still need a Sight.

But I built this thing part by
part.

First time.



Bear Creek Arsenal's Upper

.223 Wylde 16" 1/7 twist Barrel.

15" Mlok handguard.


Aero Precision M4e1 lower.

MFT Minimalist Stock.

Mil-spec Buffer Tube and Carbine Buffer.

Mil-spec Trigger and Lower Parts

Ergo Grip.

All for $320 USD.

I wanted a nice budget build I could improve over time.

Looks like I Dun' Good.
 
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psychicdeath

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Jdog93 said:
Just finished up my AR.

Well not completely.

Still need a Sight.

But I build this thing part by
part.

First time.



Bear Creek Arsenal's Upper

.223 Wylde 16" 1/7 twist Barrel.

15" Mlok handguard.


Aero Precision M4e1 lower.

MFT Minimalist Stock.

Mil-spec Buffer Tube and Carbine Buffer.

Mil-spec Trigger and Lower Parts

Ergo Grip.

All for $320 USD.

I wanted a nice budget build I could improve over time.

Looks like I Dun' Good.
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Not bad. I haven't built an AR yet myself. I have two in 5.56 mm, so if I do build one, I might go with a different caliber. Or maybe a pistol build with a brace. (as opposed to a short barreled rifle that would require an NFA tax stamp.)
 
Jdog93

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psychicdeath said:
Not bad. I haven't built an AR yet myself. I have two in 5.56 mm, so if I do build one, I might go with a different caliber. Or maybe a pistol build with a brace. (as opposed to a short barreled rifle that would require an NFA tax stamp.)
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Thanks.

Yeah I thought of going the SBR "Pistol" route myself but I didnt want the hassle of the Tax Stamp and all the regulations you have to follow.

So I decided on Regular Carbine build.

Since you haven't done it i would say the process is kind of tedious.

Got to figure out what you want.
Then look for parts. Then find the best prices on said parts.
Lastly Build.

It can all a drag.
But let me tell you in the end it is definitely worth it.

The satisfaction of completion plus the pride of doing it yourself = Awesome.

I recommend it.
 
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sparkuri

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Jdog93 said:
Just finished up my AR.

Well not completely.

Still need a Sight.

But I built this thing part by
part.

First time.



Bear Creek Arsenal's Upper

.223 Wylde 16" 1/7 twist Barrel.

15" Mlok handguard.


Aero Precision M4e1 lower.

MFT Minimalist Stock.

Mil-spec Buffer Tube and Carbine Buffer.

Mil-spec Trigger and Lower Parts

Ergo Grip.

All for $320 USD.

I wanted a nice budget build I could improve over time.

Looks like I Dun' Good.
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I wanna know if that shoots true.
What was the cost on the upper?
 
Jdog93

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sparkuri said:
I wanna know if that shoots true.
What was the cost on the upper?
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Supposed to be 1 MOA at 100 yards. I'll put that to the test Range Day.

$189 shipped.

That's with a promotion plus a discount code of course.
 
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