General Corona virus updates

[Splinty]

They didn't really say anything about what to do to stop the spread of this. They basically said retirement homes have and have had a protocol to handle viruses and that the mortality rate will go down as we actually test people and find more younger people that are infected.

1. Younger people are being denied testing around here left and right because hospitals are slammed and they don't have enough tests given the population.
   
2. They didn't really say anything about preventing the spread of the virus within the US. Corporate America has said more by limiting non essential travel and allowing many workers to WFH.

Protocols everywhere are pretty worthless. hey if you have a fever and cough put on this mask. Did you travel to China recently? Did you do any travel recently? Did you go to Italy or Iran?
If not just wash your hands and keep this mask on. See you later. If so, let me guess if I should call The county health department to find out how I got one of those tests that I've never seen and have no idea how to order.

There aren't enough tests and they're not readily available. If I could order a Corona virus test like I order a flu test this would be easy. But I can't. And as long as I can't that is all bad answers.

Until testing is a routine order, only the sickest patients will be found.

I'm responding to your summary but haven't watched the video.

 

[mysticmac]

Protocols everywhere are pretty worthless. hey if you have a fever and cough put on this mask. Did you travel to China recently? Did you do any travel recently? Did you go to Italy or Iran?
If not just wash your hands and keep this mask on. See you later. If so, let me guess if I should call The county health department to find out how I got one of those tests that I've never seen and have no idea how to order.

There aren't enough tests and they're not readily available. If I could order a Corona virus test like I order a flu test this would be easy. But I can't. And as long as I can't that is all bad answers.

Until testing is a routine order, only the sickest patients will be found.

I'm responding to your summary but haven't watched the video.

It is offline now since it was a live stream from a local news outlet. Also, the video thumbnail is not from the video itself. I don't know why they used that. Trump wasn't there, and it wasn't at the White House.

Yes, protocols are pretty worthless which is why I thought it was weird for them to mention. They brought it up as if it were something that was going to keep people in elderly care facilities safe. I doubt that.

Yes, there are not enough tests available. I think the number they threw out was that a million tests would become available nationally within the next week. That's probably the biggest progress IMO they mentioned. We'll need a lot more obviously, but that's a start in a week's time. I thought it was weird given the context they brought it up though. They seem to be concerned about gathering data to prove the mortality rate is much lower than 3.4% as the WHO is reporting. I'd rather they focus on making the tests available so infected people can be identified earlier, isolated, and treated so the virus doesn't spread nearly as fast as it currently is.

 

[Grateful Dude]

South Korea seems to be doing an amazing job getting this under control without going full communist.

I haven’t kept up as well as I should with South Korea’s handling of this situation. Can you please enlighten me as to what they’ve been doing better than other countries or outbreak areas? Are you referring to better testing and treatment there? Or something else I’m missing?

 

[sparkuri]

This isn't the plague that the media wants you to think it is. Society isn't about to end

We are 2-3 weeks behind Italy with a population 6 times its size.
The results will be exactly the same.

The fear you're talking about where "society is ending" is coming from literally no where else but inside each person, who's innately calculating their own chances of survival.

The first person to die was my age, your age.
And "underlying health issues" means anything from a toothache to cancer, literally.
1/4 of the Iranian leadership has it.
Imagine what that would be like in our country.
Would the world end?
No.
Is it concerning?
Well that depends on whether or not you're impacted, right?
Are you an investor in life insurance, or travel agencies, or airlines, or Apple, or Samsung, or anything but pharmaceuticals?
Or work for any of them?
Too bad, there goes your nest egg, or job.
Do you know where 90% of our antibiotics come from?
Do you know the impact that will have next month?
Because those ships are still in port, and those workers aren't going back to work.

I kinda feel like people aren't seeing the big picture here.
Why not take some vacation time to Hawaii then?
Round trip flights are $200 because 1/4 of flights are grounded & they're trying to keep the doors open.

I could go on and on and on.
All you have to do is look at every other country in the world right now.
Look at the stock market.
The fed can't print their way out, they can't drop interest rates enough.
Guess what, they're gonna do it again Monday morning after an NBC nightly special.

People are focusing to much on the COVID DIRECT death rate to ,them, and their health "right now", and not the impact of the earth losing 1%-2% of its population, and the wisdom of the age bracket lost.

Anybody wonder how losing a particular demographic, or a poor response will impact an election(s)?

Look at this thread 30 days ago.
Try to imagine what it'llook like 30 days after that, then 30 days afyer that.
Think South America, Mexico, India...
The border, pharmaceuticals.
WAR.

 

[mysticmac]

The first person to die was my age, your age.

Hold your horses there, old fart.

 

[Splinty]

I kinda feel like people aren't seeing the big picture here.
Why not take some vacation time to Hawaii then?
Round trip flights are $200 because 1/4 of flights are grounded & they're trying to keep the doors open.

I just did. I wish I had gone a week or two later.

 

[Splinty]

I haven’t kept up as well as I should with South Korea’s handling of this situation. Can you please enlighten me as to what they’ve been doing better than other countries or outbreak areas? Are you referring to better testing and treatment there? Or something else I’m missing?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-hundreds-of-thousands-to-fight-virus-outbrea

They test at an insane rate everywhere!
They tested a lot and they tested very early. They keep testing and isolating. You can get tested at drive-thru locations without even leaving your car.
It's an incredible push

 

[mysticmac]

King County, Washington has more deaths (10) than Beijing (8). Beijing has had 422 confirmed cases. King County, 51.

I think a lack of testing an a big issue ATM.

 

[jason73]

 

[member 3289]

This water and hand sanitizer hoarding hysteria is fucking retarded

 

[ShatsBassoon]

Its times like these that the flaws in the american healthcare system will be highlighted.
Can't afford to go in for testing, can't afford time off to be quarantined.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

This water and hand sanitizer hoarding hysteria is fucking retarded

What about the toilet paper? Everybody been buying up shit tickets like mad. Costco has been selling out in hours

 

[member 3289]

What about the toilet paper? Everybody been buying up shit tickets like mad. Costco has been selling out in hours

Christ people are stupid

 

[mysticmac]

Its times like these that the flaws in the american healthcare system will be highlighted.
Can't afford to go in for testing, can't afford time off to be quarantined.

That isn't the issue. The tests aren't available unless you are super high risk.

 

[mysticmac]

What about the toilet paper? Everybody been buying up shit tickets like mad. Costco has been selling out in hours

Weird. The most deaths in the US are in the same town Costco was founded in. There is plenty of Kirkland Signature TP there.

 

[D241]

Some ppl say it's a hoax, so they feel better.
@D-raw is one of them.

If you're going to call me out, please attach at least one quote that backs up the callout because nowhere have I ever said it's a hoax.

It's not a hoax. It's real.

But it isn't the catastrophe the media is making it out to be. The people dying are the elderly and those with immune systems that were already compromised. I don't mean to dismiss those deaths - they still suck. But for healthy people - the risk of death is very, very low. Minuscule.

Wash your hands often. Keep your hands away from your face. Other than that - live your life.
This isn't the plague that the media wants you to think it is. Society isn't about to end.

 

[D241]

View: https://youtu.be/w8nWzPnXlyU

13:40-14:10 mark @sparkuri listen to that part. Again, again, and again. Relax man. No more 500 mile road trips to waste money on mask that could be in need elsewhere. No need to write letters, just chill man. Relax.

 

[ShatsBassoon]

Weird. The most deaths in the US are in the same town Costco was founded in. There is plenty of Kirkland Signature TP there.

 

[D241]

We are 2-3 weeks behind Italy with a population 6 times its size.
The results will be exactly the same.

The fear you're talking about where "society is ending" is coming from literally no where else but inside each person, who's innately calculating their own chances of survival.

The first person to die was my age, your age.
And "underlying health issues" means anything from a toothache to cancer, literally.
1/4 of the Iranian leadership has it.
Imagine what that would be like in our country.
Would the world end?
No.
Is it concerning?
Well that depends on whether or not you're impacted, right?
Are you an investor in life insurance, or travel agencies, or airlines, or Apple, or Samsung, or anything but pharmaceuticals?
Or work for any of them?
Too bad, there goes your nest egg, or job.
Do you know where 90% of our antibiotics come from?
Do you know the impact that will have next month?
Because those ships are still in port, and those workers aren't going back to work.

I kinda feel like people aren't seeing the big picture here.
Why not take some vacation time to Hawaii then?
Round trip flights are $200 because 1/4 of flights are grounded & they're trying to keep the doors open.

I could go on and on and on.
All you have to do is look at every other country in the world right now.
Look at the stock market.
The fed can't print their way out, they can't drop interest rates enough.
Guess what, they're gonna do it again Monday morning after an NBC nightly special.

People are focusing to much on the COVID DIRECT death rate to ,them, and their health "right now", and not the impact of the earth losing 1%-2% of its population, and the wisdom of the age bracket lost.

Anybody wonder how losing a particular demographic, or a poor response will impact an election(s)?

Look at this thread 30 days ago.
Try to imagine what it'llook like 30 days after that, then 30 days afyer that.
Think South America, Mexico, India...
The border, pharmaceuticals.
WAR.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb-cAJRZrlA

 

[Splinty]

Its times like these that the flaws in the american healthcare system will be highlighted.
Can't afford to go in for testing, can't afford time off to be quarantined.

Bernie weaponized this virus in communist china.

 

[D241]

HIV: the mass killer. Yearly Mortality: 3.1 million

Ebola: the rapid killer with no cure. Yearly mortality: Mortality rate: 90% within days[3]

Rotavirus: the child-killer.

Smallpox: the monarch killer

Hepatitis B: killing your liver

Influenza: the pandemic that's still around

Hepatitis C

Measles

How about all you worry Williams people put things into perspective?

How many post have you EVER made about any of the above viruses?

How can you look at what those viruses have done and can do, and be THIS worried about the coronavirus?


We are not in 1918 people. We are the most advanced we have ever been and with the technologies we have now compared to 1918, it's not even a fair comparison.

How come you guys aren't worried about your 86yr old grandparents or parents getting influenza?

 

[ShatsBassoon]

Bernie weaponized this virus in communist china.

Bernie with the walk off KO

 

[D241]

 

[ShatsBassoon]

@Lars

 

[mysticmac]

This disease was invented by the Chinese government in order to get us all to WFH thus creating VPN connections from our home networks to our corporate networks. They have already infiltrated our home routers and will use this to steal our corporate data in an attempt to leapfrog us in the trade war.

This was a calculated strike. They got in through the internet of things they've been hustling us for years. The question we are left to answer is, what are the things???