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Bernie Sanders is an exception but it also partly explains why he hasn't been able to secure his party's nomination in two straight elections
Well.. At least we know that our great President is focused on what really matters
View: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244320571653074951?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244320571653074951?s=20
they're confusing optimism with data.
Time will tell
I think that is certainly true about part of their message and statements.
But the data is also being used by some to fuel pessimistic predictions as well(I think you disagree about this but that is my belief)
It is likely that truth lies somewhere in the middle between the extremes
the relevant skill is being able to analyze trends and determine how far before or after the inflection point we are on a logistics curve.
everything else is meaningless spin. All of the data I've seen indicates that it will be awhile before we hit the inflection point.
Because you can't trust the story coming from the Chinese government.
I hear ya
different countries and possible even different states are producing data in different ways
Some are not attributing a death by an unhealthy and/or elderly person who is positive for corona to corona...some are attributing any hospital stay and any death by a person with corona positive to be due to corona. In that way the data is harder to crunch and rely upon.
Regardless I think full on pessimism isn't healthy, same for blind optimism.
I merely posted a link to some "experts" discussing their view of the reaction...Experts have a wide array of opinions of this event and they are all using some form of Data to come to those conclusions.
Both are true
Lots of flights direct to Italy for Made In Italy factories full of chinese labor.
My dad likely caught it in december from sitting next to a asian woman on an flight wearing a mask.
No Government is gonna shoot straight about it, that isn't how governments work...control the message, control the people.
China is probably the worst with propaganda currently, but not in any way the only untrustworthy one.
I don't think it stayed in Wuhan.
agree, but the only way to support their assumption is with tests that aren't being done yet, seralogical tests to show which people have antibodies. But mathematically, I don't see how it's possible to have this presumptive herd immunity when we have a population of infected that's doubling every 3 days. There's just not enough people in the sum of every previous iteration, even if we assume 50% of the people who get it never know they have it, to generate that much herd immunity. There would be spikes in other areas of medical care...'not looking' doesn't explain 3 or more orders of magnitude between measured and assumed.
Pessimistic predictions are also the safe play.
You could pitch to Barry Bonds when he was fully juiced, batting .380, and slugging a million with runners on 2nd and 3rd or you could walk him and pitch to Jeff Kent who was a talented hitter but not the monster that Bonds was.
Getting people to pay attention by talking about how bad it could be and trying to get them to keep their asses at home as much as possible is akin to walking Bonds. Kent may still beat you but it's probably better than letting Bonds hit one into the water in right field.
right on, I hear ya
That article wasn't only about herd immunity, that was just a small part.
Lots of different viewpoints and previous data was in there...I probably picked the worst ones to post, but I wanted to put up some examples of what was in the link
haha, I hear ya
nice analogy
Time will tell how effective the safe play is and what repercussions it had on the virus and the economy.
I do know you had to walk bonds back in that era, or that shit ends up in the bay chased by dudes in kayaks.
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Because China full of shit
u can catch a cold if:
People are most contagious for the first 2 to 3 days of a cold. A cold is most often not contagious after the first week.
There are billion cases of common cold in usa per year.
So imagine.
- A person with a cold sneezes, coughs, or blows their nose near you
- You touch your nose, eyes, or mouth after you have touched something contaminated by the virus, such as a toy or doorknob
People are most contagious for the first 2 to 3 days of a cold. A cold is most often not contagious after the first week.
There are billion cases of common cold in usa per year.
So imagine.
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How
Many chineseses do you guys think actually have it
Many chineseses do you guys think actually have it
They are probably cured, but passed on their dirty slimy germs.
China quarantined Wuhan.
@Splinty talked about it before, China is pretending like it's under control, but really they're just going to make it worse. Again.
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