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ThatOneDude

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Where are they? We took action to prevent that and it's not happening as far as I know. Also one of the reasons I don't believe this is that deadly. Life will go on after this passes as it always does.
Can you post a source about overrun hospitals?
Sure, this took 2 seconds to find and it's only 1 area of 1 state.....
 
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Why do you say we are handling it terribly? Are we talking every day joe's or the people In charge?
Both.
We have a failure of leadership at almost every level.
most of it's a federal problem. Because at the end of the day the only way you get the under control when you have interstate travel is from a federal singular direction.
Probably the largest failure at the moment is lack of broad-based easy access testing.
Both limited testing, heterogeneous testing styles, low testing accuracy, and testing cost all add to barriers.
There's a significant lack of data driven phasing models. At some level, likely county since that's where many hospital districts are formed, there should be federally created guidance for caseload, doubling, and resources allocation. This model would be dynamic and data-driven. It doesn't matter that much if cases are going up if doubling times are long and resources are plentiful. In fact in that case, aggressive testing would be a good way to modify those increases before they surge...surges create an ability for fragile populations to avoid exposure and overrun resources which harm non-covid patients.

We should all be wearing masks. But at the end of the day masks are mostly in admission that we don't have great technology for this. We don't know who's sick and who's not so we just cover everybody up for source contact. This works. It is probably an efficient cost to benefit ratio at this time where normally it would not be if case loads are lower. You get rid of mask by bringing cases down we're mass eventually cost more than cases or tests.
Individuals not wearing masks or a problem. Individuals wearing masks and then hanging out in large groups are a problem. People not washing their hands increasingly well and sanitizing their space is a problem.

At no point here in Texas have I gone around and seen some level of increased public hand washing or other types of public sanitizing going on. That's a problem.

Instead the federal government has turfed it to the states to the locals to the business to the employee.
Your local restaurant manager inventing their own plans without significant guidance. It's all just random without a lot of data behind most of it.


And then behind all of this failure for months and months and months is compounding quarantine fatigue. not only should you quarantine and then get off of it as quick as you can, something we failed to do, But you should be looking at what you have to do for people under that shotgun approach.
The failure of leadership has continued to sow doubt where people will fatigue faster.
But also we haven't thought outside the box beyond this... Above I reference the potential for a data driven model. Phasing which a lot of people talk about but is not done in unison and is not well data driven. Half of them are quite political. Here's an out-of-the-box idea... If you can math out an area that accelerates cases at a certain amount but know that you would have to respond with a mini lockdown at the tail end, would this mentally be easier on the people instead of faces a various services opening and closing? Could I open things up faster than I want and let everybody know that a 4-day or 5-day weekend is coming up to stay home and spend time with family? I dunno. That's like doing scheduled lockdowns instead of random phased ones. But then there's a horizon and a date and preparation.

Anyway regardless, if you need a test right now you have to come pay me for it. That's stupid and that shouldn't be happening. You should be going to a kiosk and it should be subsidized to almost nothing or free.

You should be doing rapid test. You should not be going to your doctor to get a test to go back to work (variable and not data driven). Just a ton. And we are missing the target on all of this.
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
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Sure, this took 2 seconds to find and it's only 1 area of 1 state.....
Glad they’re preparing if they do get overrun


"That field hospital down in Milwaukee is a nice insurance plan for us so that if the number of cases do continue to increase that we will have somewhere that we can send people," said Dr. Burmeister
 

ThatOneDude

Commander in @Chief, Dick Army
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Glad they’re preparing if they do get overrun


"That field hospital down in Milwaukee is a nice insurance plan for us so that if the number of cases do continue to increase that we will have somewhere that we can send people," said Dr. Burmeister
So you skipped over the part when some regions are 90% full?
 

SongExotic2

ATM 3 CHAMPION OF THE WORLD. #ASSBLOODS
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Jan 16, 2015
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what did you have for lunch?
Stoovlees

Or beef stew to you and me

IMG_20201022_114532.jpg

As it warms up (I got in from a deli, this picture is cold) you stab the meat and it all breaks down. Finished all the meat is no longer in lumps it's shredded. It's damn fine chow. Like bourbignon or whatever the fuck the frogs call it
 

Mr Smokalotapotamus

You gonna pass that bro??
Jun 23, 2018
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Both.
We have a failure of leadership at almost every level.
most of it's a federal problem. Because at the end of the day the only way you get the under control when you have interstate travel is from a federal singular direction.
Probably the largest failure at the moment is lack of broad-based easy access testing.
Both limited testing, heterogeneous testing styles, low testing accuracy, and testing cost all add to barriers.
There's a significant lack of data driven phasing models. At some level, likely county since that's where many hospital districts are formed, there should be federally created guidance for caseload, doubling, and resources allocation. This model would be dynamic and data-driven. It doesn't matter that much if cases are going up if doubling times are long and resources are plentiful. In fact in that case, aggressive testing would be a good way to modify those increases before they surge...surges create an ability for fragile populations to avoid exposure and overrun resources which harm non-covid patients.

We should all be wearing masks. But at the end of the day masks are mostly in admission that we don't have great technology for this. We don't know who's sick and who's not so we just cover everybody up for source contact. This works. It is probably an efficient cost to benefit ratio at this time where normally it would not be if case loads are lower. You get rid of mask by bringing cases down we're mass eventually cost more than cases or tests.
Individuals not wearing masks or a problem. Individuals wearing masks and then hanging out in large groups are a problem. People not washing their hands increasingly well and sanitizing their space is a problem.

At no point here in Texas have I gone around and seen some level of increased public hand washing or other types of public sanitizing going on. That's a problem.

Instead the federal government has turfed it to the states to the locals to the business to the employee.
Your local restaurant manager inventing their own plans without significant guidance. It's all just random without a lot of data behind most of it.


And then behind all of this failure for months and months and months is compounding quarantine fatigue. not only should you quarantine and then get off of it as quick as you can, something we failed to do, But you should be looking at what you have to do for people under that shotgun approach.
The failure of leadership has continued to sow doubt where people will fatigue faster.
But also we haven't thought outside the box beyond this... Above I reference the potential for a data driven model. Phasing which a lot of people talk about but is not done in unison and is not well data driven. Half of them are quite political. Here's an out-of-the-box idea... If you can math out an area that accelerates cases at a certain amount but know that you would have to respond with a mini lockdown at the tail end, would this mentally be easier on the people instead of faces a various services opening and closing? Could I open things up faster than I want and let everybody know that a 4-day or 5-day weekend is coming up to stay home and spend time with family? I dunno. That's like doing scheduled lockdowns instead of random phased ones. But then there's a horizon and a date and preparation.

Anyway regardless, if you need a test right now you have to come pay me for it. That's stupid and that shouldn't be happening. You should be going to a kiosk and it should be subsidized to almost nothing or free.

You should be doing rapid test. You should not be going to your doctor to get a test to go back to work (variable and not data driven). Just a ton. And we are missing the target on all of this.
Thank you!
 

SongExotic2

ATM 3 CHAMPION OF THE WORLD. #ASSBLOODS
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Jan 16, 2015
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Stoovlees

Or beef stew to you and me

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As it warms up (I got in from a deli, this picture is cold) you stab the meat and it all breaks down. Finished all the meat is no longer in lumps it's shredded. It's damn fine chow. Like bourbignon or whatever the fuck the frogs call it
I only ate half and took the rest to work, diddnt wind up eating it tho I got some chicken nuggets instead. See what I mean about the meat separating tho

Also, I took this pic two mins ago, it's been in fridge for ten hours

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MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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So you skipped over the part when some regions are 90% full?
So not full
How many people recovered today and left?
Does the hospital have 10 beds or 1,000?
I’m sure a few small towns are having issues
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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I believe we started off talking about masks..... Maybe if people wore them the economy wouldn't have shit down for so long..... Mub freeeeeeedommmmmmmm
I was just at Lowe’s and was gonna buy some new masks. Everyone had a warming on the box that they don’t stop the human coronavirus. Are the manufacturers lying to the customers? Seems like bad business.
 

ThatOneDude

Commander in @Chief, Dick Army
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Jan 14, 2015
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I was just at Lowe’s and was gonna buy some new masks. Everyone had a warming on the box that they don’t stop the human coronavirus. Are the manufacturers lying to the customers? Seems like bad business.
Well without knowing what masks you are talking about how do you expect anyone to answer? Are you being purposefully vague?