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Poiupoiu

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been a month or so since i checked, but the last official death count from the vaccine in the US was THREE (sometime in july)

3 out of 150,000,000 people + in the US

VAERS is not a source of data
 

Shinkicker

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What if they first saw a bad reaction to the vaccine?
It is part of the equation and isn't uncommon.
I know a few serious ones locally.

Patients going bad is very sad, but I'm not certain Pfizer is the solution for that.
I'm not empathic to the ones who have adverse reactions to the vaccine. It's terrible and my heart goes out to them. From my perspective a covid patient going bad was more terrifying.

So far the vaccine does seem to be the best solution to prevent going bad when you catch the virus.
The lowest percentage of hospitalizations that I've seen so far is 90% unvaccinated.

I concede there are many unknowns with the vaccine. And I may regret getting it later. But I weighed my odds and made my choice.

I'm not passing judgement on the nurses that are refusing either. But nursing is based on rationales. And I'd like to sit down to a discussion with one (who has seen the bad covid) and hear their rationale for choosing not to get the vaccine.

And many people may not realize this but there is a good chance that nurses who don't work in the ICU or ER have never seen nor cared for a covid patient going bad. The doctors that I have worked with were great at recognizing the ones that were about to tilt and getting them over to the ICU. So most nurses have only seen the ones with mild cases. That is exactly the case with all of the nurses that I know personally who have so far refused the vaccine.

Splinty @Splinty , do you have any ICU nurses there that are still refusing the vaccine?
 

Shinkicker

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Thousands.
I can tell you living in original ground zero.
I'm going to yet another march in 2 weeks, and they are all over, all the time.
Their view(basically) is that treatment orders are coming from the CDC, not from their own experience and treatment recommendations.
That's my view as well, maybe I'll meet one and marry her.
Once she sees me that's the bait, once she hears me that's the hook.
Once she's chained to the floor, that's all she wrote.
If I was still on the west coast I would meet you there and help find your bride!
 

Shinkicker

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An old friend of mine is losing his battle with covid. 47 year old nurse with no health problems (that I'm aware of). He can no longer tolerate dialysis. His family worked tirelessly and finally found a hospital to accept transfer. He is to be moved to Maury Regional in Tennessee (they have CRRT). The doctors where he is now don't want to release him because they say the move will kill him. But it's his only hope per the family so they are now fighting that battle. That was where they were yesterday.

It looks as if my plans of not going back to work until October are changing. I'm waiting on that $7k!!
 

Splinty

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An old friend of mine is losing his battle with covid. 47 year old nurse with no health problems (that I'm aware of). He can no longer tolerate dialysis. His family worked tirelessly and finally found a hospital to accept transfer. He is to be moved to Maury Regional in Tennessee (they have CRRT). The doctors where he is now don't want to release him because they say the move will kill him. But it's his only hope per the family so they are now fighting that battle. That was where they were yesterday.

It looks as if my plans of not going back to work until October are changing. I'm waiting on that $7k!!
I'm sorry to hear that.
Our Cardiologist recently lost their assistant to covid.
We lost a pharmacist and a doctor last year.

I'm heading back up to the hospital now. I was there until 1am. One of my patients that was on the mend there is now doing poorly. Barely holding it together on BiPAP.

My poor nurses have been calling me for 24 hours with often pretty inappropriate stuff. But it's really not their fault. They don't have the experience. The system has had to pull nurses from other hospitals and other departments. I've got nurses working coronavirus med surg for the first time and they don't know what's normal and what's not. This is going to wreck a lot of them I think. It's hard enough spending half an hour a day with the patient That might die. Those 12-hour shifts, especially for a nurse new to the floor, has got to be brutal on the psyche.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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Now 188 Kids COVID Positive In Palm Beach Schools
37 Teachers Also Infected With COVID-19 Just Four Days Into School Year.
As of its late Friday night report, there are at least 225 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the school district, with 188 of those cases being attributed to students. By its own admission, the public report is often three days behind “reality,” meaning the count is likely much higher. Interim Superintendent Michael Burke said Thursday that at least 440 students are now quarantined at home — meaning they may have been exposed to other students or teachers who are affirmatively positive for COVID-19.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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2 mainland travelers arrested in Honolulu for alleged fake vaccine cards, AG says
Authorities from the Hawaii Attorney General’s office arrested two visitors from the mainland for allegedly attempting to skirt the state’s Safe Travels program.

The AG’s office said the travelers were arrested Sunday at the Daniel K. Inouye Airport. Investigators found they were allegedly violation of the travel rules for using fake vaccination cards to come to the islands.

Investigators were following up on a tip from a community member.

Falsifying a vaccination card carries a fine of up to $5,000 and/or a term in prison for up to a year. The travelers — identified as Norbert Chung and Trevor Chung — were charged and arraigned Wednesday morning.
 

Splinty

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Freeloading Rusty

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Parent attacks teacher after mask dispute on first day of school in California district, official says

Gibson told KCRA that the fight started when a parent who was frustrated with the school's mask mandate saw his daughter walk out of the building with a face covering. After the parent got into an argument with the principal, a male teacher intervened, the superintendent said. The situation escalated into a physical fight, leaving the teacher "bleeding," according to Gibson.

The teacher suffered "lacerations on his face, some bruising on his a face and a pretty good knot on the back of his head," she told KCRA. He was treated at the hospital and later released Wednesday.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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After big county fair, virus hits hard in rural Mississippi
A rural Mississippi community is overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases, two weeks after hosting the Neshoba County Fair that drew thousands who lived in cabins, attended shoulder-to-shoulder outdoor concerts and listened to stump speeches — including one by the Republican governor, who decried federal masking guidance as “foolish.”

Frustrated by rising COVID-19 infections, the chief executive officer of the 25-bed Neshoba General Hospital posted a message on social media this week challenging Gov. Tate Reeves to step up and show leadership.


View: https://twitter.com/lmccall717/status/1425211052422307842?s=21
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Greene waves off concerns of hospital overcrowding: 'We can't live forever'
"Everybody needs to get back down to common sense and remember that, you know, we're human, we can't live forever, we're going to catch all kinds of diseases and illnesses and other viruses, and we get hurt sometimes,” she continued.
 

Shinkicker

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I'm sorry to hear that.
Our Cardiologist recently lost their assistant to covid.
We lost a pharmacist and a doctor last year.

I'm heading back up to the hospital now. I was there until 1am. One of my patients that was on the mend there is now doing poorly. Barely holding it together on BiPAP.

My poor nurses have been calling me for 24 hours with often pretty inappropriate stuff. But it's really not their fault. They don't have the experience. The system has had to pull nurses from other hospitals and other departments. I've got nurses working coronavirus med surg for the first time and they don't know what's normal and what's not. This is going to wreck a lot of them I think. It's hard enough spending half an hour a day with the patient That might die. Those 12-hour shifts, especially for a nurse new to the floor, has got to be brutal on the psyche.
Yes! This is where we saw nurses going out on medical leave in droves.

You guys may be way ahead of this but I can tell you a few things to suggest that made a huge difference for us if you guys haven't done so already.

Call the house supervisor and ask them to come and meet you for rounds. Ask them what they are doing to help support the nurses. You can't lose your troops!

Ask them about pulling extra techs or CNA's from other departments (maybe the ones shut down, these guys need work, too!). Have at least one for every 8 beds, more if you can.

Time management is essential and waiting on another nurse to be free to help turn, run for supplies forgotten after you have suited up, restocking your isolation carts, etc. Suiting up and going in was as stressful to some nurses as going in to deactivate a bomb. Having someone watching to see if you needed anything while in there to reduce the number of trips in was great.

Even if they say no, the nurses hearing you ask will make a world of difference.

Ask (or suggest) the house supervisor to find at least 2 separate places for lunch breaks. Maybe even somewhere in the shut down departments. Somewhere they can be quiet, alone, and feel safer pulling the mask off. Those cramped break rooms don't feel safe to remove your mask.

If at all feasible ask the charge nurse to make sure they are getting a 15 min break in the morning and one in the afternoon. This goes a long way to help destress and recharge.

Schedule as many medicines as you safely can at the same time. Our hospital finally conceded to allow nurses to reschedule some medicines ourselves. Again, less trips in meant less stress.

Ask them if someone is trying to find businesses willing to send in lunches occasionally. This really boosts morale and makes them feel like the community is supporting/recognizing their hard work.

Even asking for one of these for your nurses......

Don't underestimate your power. Just one doctor showing concern for the nurses goes a long way.

Note: I don't want to shit up this thread but it looks like I'll be going back to work sooner than I thought. So if you have any suggestions/ideas for me to take with me to my next battlefield share them with me (in a pm if you want).
 
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