SIngle source fallacy would only be relevant if the statement was "being unvaccinated is the only reason for hospitalization".
Regardless of age and health, the number of covid-related hospitalizations are 90-95% unvaccinated.
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Regardless of age and health, the number of covid-related hospitalizations are 90-95% unvaccinated.
And you had to go all the way to the Netherlands to get it. Lol
At least the people who took the vaccine to
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from clogging up ICUs
So in summary;
Leigh: Unvaccinated people are disproportionately over represented in hospital admissions and deaths across all age groups.
Filthy: look at my beautiful Data and try saying that.
Leigh: It supports my statement.
Filthy: of course it shows that.
congratulations on identifying The Data Point. Except the part that's not supported by the data that I struck out for you.
the next step is to analyze The Data Point in conjunction with all other Data Points and generate a hypothesis.
Tune in next week when
@Leigh learns more about The Science (tm).
what percentage of hospitalizations are people over 50, regardless of vaccine status?
Or...and bear with me on this...congratulations on identifying The Data Point. Except the part that's not supported by the data that I struck out for you.
the next step is to analyze The Data Point in conjunction with all other Data Points and generate a hypothesis.
Tune in next week when
I'm using a different data source to you.
Seems a bit weird to present your own data source to an argument and then discredit it.
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COVID-19: 99% of hospital admissions were among those not fully vaccinated
While COVID-19 cases continue to spike across the US, the overwhelming majority of deaths and hospitalizations from the virus continue to overwhelmingly be among unvaccinated Americans, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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No idea how this thread got steered so far off topic, but...
As more people get vaccinated and protection from second doses wanes, of course the number of vaccinated hospitalizations will rise.
This doesn't change the fact that the vaccinated are FAR less likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than the unvaccinated.
If hospitals were filled only with vaccinated covid patients, there would be no need for restrictions.
As more people get vaccinated and protection from second doses wanes, of course the number of vaccinated hospitalizations will rise.
This doesn't change the fact that the vaccinated are FAR less likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than the unvaccinated.
If hospitals were filled only with vaccinated covid patients, there would be no need for restrictions.
ooooh...the mythical Unseen Data...tell me more...
the data doesn't discredit my argument, it shows the gap in data collection by people making incorrect arguments.
it also shows that we don't need "government mandates and control" if you have free association and property rights.
Why don't you tell us, smarty pants?
because i'm not the one telling people with guns to go tell other people how to live their life.
In response to my statement, you refer to your own data and and then discredit your own data.
Have a guess at which logical fallacy that is.
I'm using data from the UK.
Infographic: The Unvaccinated Drive COVID-19 Infections in the U.S.
This infographic shows the weekly rates per 100,000 people of COVID-19 cases in selected age groups in the U.S., by vaccination status.
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Infographic: The Unvaccinated Drive COVID-19 Infections in the U.S.
This infographic shows the weekly rates per 100,000 people of COVID-19 cases in selected age groups in the U.S., by vaccination status.
and it sure looks like age is a bigger indicator of risk than vaccination status
Look at that dark orange line beating out the older folks in 14 different states!
Oh no!
Oh no!
The first graph is hospitalizations. And the older are a greater number but sure doesn't look like 90% to me.
@Shinkicker - irrespective of vaccination status, people over the age of 50 are 10X more likely to be hospitalized than people under 50, right?
How many more assignments are you going to try to give out to find a way to be right?
Fuck off, lol
Those groups aren't mutually inclusive. Most people here dying of covid are still 80+ even though they're double vaccinated.
Ok, sorry. So that info is right there in my last data post. So here you go.
The infection rates have a direct impact on hospitalizations, also newly reported by the CDC by vaccination status. Depending on the age group, hospitalization rates were ten to 15 times higher for unvaccinated individuals. In the case of unvaccinated 18-49 years old, this meant that hospitalizations for the coronavirus were still only at 27 in 100,000 people as of early September, just exceeding the rate for vaccinated people 65 years and older at 15 per 100,000. However, the rates of hospitalizations for unvaccinated individuals in the age groups 50-64 and 65+ were much higher, at 94 per 100,000 and 239 per 100,000 people, respectively.
unvaccinated 18-49 years old, this meant that hospitalizations for the coronavirus were still only at 27 in 100,000
vaccinated people 65 years and older at 15 per 100,000
Go ahead group them together by age then. The math still checks out. Vaccinated vs unvaccinated plays a larger role in each age group.