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You would have abused your ADMIN powers pages ago
I try to stay out of this type of stuff. We all know I’m a bit of a hot head, and prone to bouts of E-violence. I’m like, really good at computer things doe.
 

Shinkicker

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Because the EUA vials are labeled as such for informed consent of age group that didn't fall under the BLA.

Pfizer can send out EUA labeled BLA compliant vials and use them for either person under EUA or the group falling under BLA. If labeling only with BLA brand you would apparently run afoul of the FDA EUA requirements.

I suspect even the site specific issue has something to do with this kid of detailed bureaucracy to guarantee a company can only make a drug under the very specific approval and not like generics where you have a wide area under the curve to claim bioequivalents.
One more question....

So how does the government know if they are giving the BLA one or not?
 
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One more question....

So how does the government know if they are giving the BLA one or not?

Lot numbers tied to said location.

One criticism from the judge above is the DOD was giving vials from locations defined under the BLA but also locations that are only under the EUA. Well they are chemically identical with the exception of certain inert agents due to different manufacturing processes at certain facilities, because of the DOD guidance. Mandating only FDA vaccines without presidential order. Order the DOD's own guidance calls for only FDA approved vials. As such, any soldier can demand their vaccine be from a BLA compliant batch. The plaintiffs against the DOD and the above failed. Basically all of their complaints against the mandate. Mandate stands. They cannot go against it. They can require confirmation that they are receiving a BLA compliant lot versus one from an EUA facility.
 
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That doesn't say anything about vax rates.
That chart claims new covid hospitalizations.
Ohio: 35th per capita (53.9% fully vaccinated)

Michigan: 31st per capita (55.1% fully vaccinated

You sloppy fucks.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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That doesn't say anything about vax rates.
That chart claims new covid hospitalizations.
Locally we're closing in on a 90% vaccination rate and yesterday we were warned that if the current trend continues our ICU's will be over capacity. Who even knows what the fuck is going on anymore.
 

SoupCan

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Locally we're closing in on a 90% vaccination rate and yesterday we were warned that if the current trend continues our ICU's will be over capacity. Who even knows what the fuck is going on anymore.
It's those meddling children, contracting it and spreading it to the vaccinated who are..... protected x3?
 

Shinkicker

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Lot numbers tied to said location.

One criticism from the judge above is the DOD was giving vials from locations defined under the BLA but also locations that are only under the EUA. Well they are chemically identical with the exception of certain inert agents due to different manufacturing processes at certain facilities, because of the DOD guidance. Mandating only FDA vaccines without presidential order. Order the DOD's own guidance calls for only FDA approved vials. As such, any soldier can demand their vaccine be from a BLA compliant batch. The plaintiffs against the DOD and the above failed. Basically all of their complaints against the mandate. Mandate stands. They cannot go against it. They can require confirmation that they are receiving a BLA compliant lot versus one from an EUA facility.
Awesome.

Last question. Lol

So where do you look to see if your vaccine has a lot number that is BLA compliant?
 

Rambo John J

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Lot numbers tied to said location.

One criticism from the judge above is the DOD was giving vials from locations defined under the BLA but also locations that are only under the EUA. Well they are chemically identical with the exception of certain inert agents due to different manufacturing processes at certain facilities, because of the DOD guidance. Mandating only FDA vaccines without presidential order. Order the DOD's own guidance calls for only FDA approved vials. As such, any soldier can demand their vaccine be from a BLA compliant batch. The plaintiffs against the DOD and the above failed. Basically all of their complaints against the mandate. Mandate stands. They cannot go against it. They can require confirmation that they are receiving a BLA compliant lot versus one from an EUA facility.
Does this all apply to the general public when they get their "jabs"?
Do we get to know where our vaccines have been?
 

SoupCan

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Anybody ready to admit that this was/is all about control?
watched some spooky thing about AI controlled surveillance in Australia that your employer can use to monitor your social distancing and to make sure you complying with the mask mandates. shit is pretty wack

Im working on something similar, its old parking sensors and a raspberry pi that shocks me into a manic episode whenever someone comes with in my social distance bubble, first shock is I start twitching and trying to bite my own ear, second shock is Im yelling "CUNT" and trying to bite your ear
 

SoupCan

how bout dat
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watched some spooky thing about AI controlled surveillance in Australia that your employer can use to monitor your social distancing and to make sure you complying with the mask mandates. shit is pretty wack

Im working on something similar, its old parking sensors and a raspberry pi that shocks me into a manic episode whenever someone comes with in my social distance bubble, first shock is I start twitching and trying to bite my own ear, second shock is Im yelling "CUNT" and trying to bite your ear
this guy is my inspiration for the project


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re2EB2ItJUQ
 

Rambo John J

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watched some spooky thing about AI controlled surveillance in Australia that your employer can use to monitor your social distancing and to make sure you complying with the mask mandates. shit is pretty wack

Im working on something similar, its old parking sensors and a raspberry pi that shocks me into a manic episode whenever someone comes with in my social distance bubble, first shock is I start twitching and trying to bite my own ear, second shock is Im yelling "CUNT" and trying to bite your ear
Lol
Don't be a conspiracy person please

This is all for your safety and the community good

Now please put a n95 mask on both of your genitals, drink some Pfizerade and have a Juicy 18oz Brawndo LabFed-FakeRibeye
 
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Awesome.

Last question. Lol

So where do you look to see if your vaccine has a lot number that is BLA compliant?

I don't know. The FDA states on their website that both the EUA and BLA vaccines can be used interchangeably with equal safety and effectiveness. It's blind to me in any concern in the same way I don't know who'll manufacture my patients next levothyroxine prescription.

Only from a legal standpoint does the question come up. As such I would suspect that anyone in charge of mandating should be prepared to categorize lots when they order from Pfizer. Lest further judgements come about pausing mandates until that information is presented to this being required to get vaccinated for their jobs.
 
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Also Shinkicker @Shinkicker it's important to remember that one of the crux is in the DOD itself stated that the vaccines must be FDA approved. This could be overridden with an order than the president. As such, it's possible at the executive order requiring vaccinations across the country falls under the same precedent on executive order and that this does not apply outside of the DOD. The mandate could still be legal. I know you're asking about lot numbers but I am just highlighting the very specifics of this case and that it probably can't be applied broadly.
 

Shinkicker

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Also Shinkicker @Shinkicker it's important to remember that one of the crux is in the DOD itself stated that the vaccines must be FDA approved. This could be overridden with an order than the president. As such, it's possible at the executive order requiring vaccinations across the country falls under the same precedent on executive order and that this does not apply outside of the DOD. The mandate could still be legal. I know you're asking about lot numbers but I am just highlighting the very specifics of this case and that it probably can't be applied broadly.
Wait...are you saying a school or employer can mandate a non FDA approved vaccine if the president issues the order?

Or are you saying the opposite, that the president can mandate the vaccine for DOD?
 

Shinkicker

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The worst thing about this covid shit is everyone and their dog thinks they are a trained medical professional.
How does being a mod on an MMA site qualify you to be commenting on this? FTR im double vaxxed, why? because some guy with 9 years undergrad training in MEDICINE and god knows how much ongoing training specifically said it was okay.

I dont know how CTers think the millions of general and specialist doctors around the world managed to disappear simultaneously for a day or so to be brought in on this "scam"

My GF has several family members who work in medicine and they absolutely love one upping each other just as do scientists so how they were all made to agree to this "conspiracy" is beyond imagination.

Get vaxxed, wear a mask if asked to and get tested if you show symptoms, we really dont need internet mods and trolls telling us what to do
Piss off, wanker.
 
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Wait...are you saying a school or employer can mandate a non FDA approved vaccine if the president issues the order?
I'm saying that the anthrax vaccination legal precedent that he can order troops to do so and I have no idea if that's applicable beyond that population.

More I was thinking that a mandate that says go out and you must be vaccinated, And then leaves you to figure out if it's fda approved or not when the FDA says they are equally efficacious and safe, might still be legal. While the DOD policy itself specifically says the DOD will provide FDA vaccines. It's a unique population.