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Rambo John J

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The worst thing about this covid shit is everyone and their dog thinks they are a trained medical professional.
How does being a mod on an MMA site qualify you to be commenting on this? FTR im double vaxxed, why? because some guy with 9 years undergrad training in MEDICINE and god knows how much ongoing training specifically said it was okay.

I dont know how CTers think the millions of general and specialist doctors around the world managed to disappear simultaneously for a day or so to be brought in on this "scam"

My GF has several family members who work in medicine and they absolutely love one upping each other just as do scientists so how they were all made to agree to this "conspiracy" is beyond imagination.

Get vaxxed, wear a mask if asked to and get tested if you show symptoms, we really dont need internet mods and trolls telling us what to do
Post under your normal account
We don't need two of you shitting up the joint
 

Splinty

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Fucking boomers

Im sure your DVD's and stereograph machines contain all the cutting edge knowledge

Do they run on two stroke or four stroke?

You might have missed the joke due to my vast MMA knowledge.

I usually am done in 2 strokes.

How are you? How's covid in Australia?
 

Splinty

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Get vaxxed, wear a mask if asked to and get tested if you show symptoms, we really dont need internet mods and trolls telling us what to do
What if those trolls are doctors and nurses that shit post to blow off steam from caring for COVID patients?


because some guy with 9 years undergrad training in MEDICINE
I sometimes forget your docs do 6+3.
Must be nice to do so little schooling and still be a doctor.

 

Splinty

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22 months of lockdown in my state and 80ish % vaccination rates and cases have dropped significantly

Gee I wonder why?

Because lockdowns and vaccinations work.

What are they talking about is the end point ? That's a pretty good vaccination rate. Now that things are down are you guys getting back to normal?
 

Rambo John J

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Because lockdowns and vaccinations work.

What are they talking about is the end point ? That's a pretty good vaccination rate. Now that things are down are you guys getting back to normal?
LOL
I hope you have figured out by now that isn't how this works

They are fucked and you know it
 

Filthy

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Splinty @Splinty - how confident are you that the FDA approval is an all on the up-n-up, above board, no competing objectives thing?
 

Splinty

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Splinty @Splinty - how confident are you that the FDA approval is an all on the up-n-up, above board, no competing objectives thing?
No more than any other time that the FDA has basically been an unholy matrimony of government and private industry.

But the studies and independent retrospective data are good. And there are significant amount of people for smarter on the subject than I am supporting that do not carry the same conflicts of interest that you might find in the FDA approval process.
 

Shinkicker

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Ok so here's my hypothesis...

I think the 2 vacs are, as stated, clinically interchangeable. Obviously. Because the FDA declared it so.

I think Pfizer doesn't want to produce the FDA approved vaccine yet because then they will be held to different legal standards. (Liability)

Per the FDA Pfizer is supposed to post any lots that are BLA compliant on the internet. And, of course, keep the FDA advised of who, what, when, and where and how much.

I couldn't find any such lot numbers anywhere. Apparently no one else can either.

Some senator has been asking Pfizer/biotech and the FDA by letter how many batches have been produced that are BLA compliant. Pointing out the importance of this in mandates being issued by the government.

No answer from either.

NIH published a memo at the end of September saying Pfizer doesn't intend on producing cormirnaty while it is still producing and distributing EUA vaccine.

I think Pfizer doesn't want to claim and publish lots as BLA compliant so they can fall back on the safety legal net of the EUA for as long as possible.
 

Rambo John J

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Yeah everything will be back to "normal" in 3 days, right now we have to wear masks indoors but not at the gym or if youre eating (obviously)

Vax certs will be part of the new normal. Our biggest issue was everything is decided on a state and not federal level
Are you vaccinated?
That is what really matters
 

Splinty

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Yeah everything will be back to "normal" in 3 days, right now we have to wear masks indoors but not at the gym or if youre eating (obviously)

Vax certs will be part of the new normal. Our biggest issue was everything is decided on a state and not federal level

Vaccination is easily the best tool to get this under control. I'm worried about extended lockdowns. How was that on the psyche? We saw a lot of anxiety and depression here with much shorter lockdowns than you are doing.


If the number of hospitalizations and deaths from coronavirus fall to a level that is lower than flu or other common ailments in your society do you think they should still continue with vaccination certificates?
Theoretically at some point everybody that can get sick and die from this does and everybody else has enough immunity that it's just another virus pin balling through the population just like all of them do.

Like what would be the utility of having vaccination certificates for this one particular illness to Be the utility of having vaccination certificates for this one particular illness ten years from now?
 

Splinty

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I think Pfizer doesn't want to produce the FDA approved vaccine yet because then they will be held to different legal standards. (Liability)


Apparently that's not true.
 

Shinkicker

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Apparently that's not true.
Damn. All covid vaccines and drugs exempt.

Smh
 

Rambo John J

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I think the loonies were looking for an excuse to be looney, you guys have a lot of looneys given your pop size.



No I dont think the certs should be a forever thing, just until things get to what you just described but who gives a fuck what I think im not a doctor. Ive gotten rid of all social media due to covid and the bullshit that gets passed around as fact.

One thing that CTers here loved asking at the beginning was "Do you personally know anyone with covid" no dickheads I dont but I dont know anyone who has aids but still wear a rubber when I hit some strange



I think ive answered this but I dont think it will continue to be a requirement here but if it is? oh well, everyone walks everywhere staring at their phones these days anyway so what the big dead showing your digital ID to the store clerk for 1 second (they arent scanned here) while you share yet another pointless detail about your life on facebook while you walk through crowds of people
Your a Brownshirt
 
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The worst thing about this covid shit is everyone and their dog thinks they are a trained medical professional.
How does being a mod on an MMA site qualify you to be commenting on this? FTR im double vaxxed, why? because some guy with 9 years undergrad training in MEDICINE and god knows how much ongoing training specifically said it was okay.

I dont know how CTers think the millions of general and specialist doctors around the world managed to disappear simultaneously for a day or so to be brought in on this "scam"

My GF has several family members who work in medicine and they absolutely love one upping each other just as do scientists so how they were all made to agree to this "conspiracy" is beyond imagination.

Get vaxxed, wear a mask if asked to and get tested if you show symptoms, we really dont need internet mods and trolls telling us what to do
We may not have any real doctors but we have damn good lawyers that post here.
 

Filthy

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No more than any other time that the FDA has basically been an unholy matrimony of government and private industry.

But the studies and independent retrospective data are good. And there are significant amount of people for smarter on the subject than I am supporting that do not carry the same conflicts of interest that you might find in the FDA approval process.
my sense on that matter is that vaccines/boosters make sense based on risk factors... like being over 40 or dealing with other health issues.

i think the push to vaccinate people outside of those risk factors is profit-driven.

I don't think Pfizer is being thorough or transparent in their collection and reporting of after-market impacts.
 

Shinkicker

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Apparently that's not true.
It took me longer to type that up than it did for you to shoot me down.


Would it kill you to give me a little more time?!
 

Rambo John J

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my sense on that matter is that vaccines/boosters make sense based on risk factors... like being over 40 or dealing with other health issues.

i think the push to vaccinate people outside of those risk factors is profit-driven.

I don't think Pfizer is being thorough or transparent in their collection and reporting of after-market impacts.
In a few years you will realize that it is more control driven than profit driven