Russian TV channels hacked to play Ukranian song, Anonymous perhaps?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs5lEwwtyk
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs5lEwwtyk
Excellent video explaining the what, why & where of this invasion.
View: https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE
View: https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE
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I’ve been busy at work, but I’m definitely tired and angry
You can see the building still stands, due to the lack of jet fuel!Apartment building in Kyiv hit by a Russian shell:
It seems like only yesterday that the entirety of CNN's Russia coverage was a made up collusion scandal. Ah, simpler times.
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*yells*
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Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics and the Fait Accompli - War on the Rocks
Editor's note: Don't miss our comprehensive guide to Russia's war against Ukraine. Russia’s military buildup along the border with Ukraine has
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The Russian Army Doesn’t Have Enough Trucks To Defeat Ukraine Fast
Russia needs trucks. But it’s woefully short.
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What do you guys make of this stuff? Any teeth or is this like an episode of Me Robot?
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They will carpet bomb Kiev if they think they’re gonna lose
That can be good and bad as we have seen.
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I was able to re-establish contact with family briefly. The women and kids are hiding, the men are fighting.
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No idea the accuracy of this but I haven't really even considered what happens if Russia just chokes and gets their shit pushed in.
I keep thinking their "loss" would be some retreat to a claim of more of the east and a statement that they have successfully protected their Russia ethnic brothers from genocide so they are now moving back to a peacekeeping (in the newly claimed territory).
But what if you have 100k starving troops in Russia that you can't move forward. And what if Ukraine maintains or gains it's land claims?
Does this all solidify the world in support of Ukraine rapidly moving towards EU, NATO where it was easily avoided for years before?
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Note to everyone, as I'm sure you're already finding out, that 90% of images, memos, videos and even supposedly on the ground accounts you're discovering are mostly propaganda from either side. We're definitely getting mostly noise for awhile.
Something else I wanted to add is that just like I posted the position of the Russian oligarchs, I'd be remiss if I didn't do the same for the Ukrainians. One of the issues with the current situation is the maidan revolution/coup that overthrew the Yanukovych regime with its troubling links to neo-Nazis and pro-NATO Euro-enthusiasm. This can be understood as intercapitalist rivalry largely and is deeply tied into US/European financial and security interests in the region. One error some are making is conflating the Zelenskyy regime with the maidan movement groups when in actuality he's prosecuted several of them and many if the oligarchs including former President Poroshenko. He was sympathetic to the movement at the time, but represents a kind of faction within a faction since he ran on an anti-corruption platform. It's actually very surreal to see the tv show he was on considering current events.
View: https://youtu.be/GZ-3YwVQV0M
Anyway, the oligarchs in Ukraine and what they may want that got them into these squabbles with Russia are worth knowing. Here are some basic resources.
en.m.wikipedia.org
www.bbc.com
www.forbes.com
Worth thinking about who closer ties to NATO/Europe really enrich, what allegiances and points of competition there are between Ukrainian oligarchs and their Russian counterparts and how Zelenskyy's crusade against some of these upper classes who funded the Maidan revolution might have made him vulnerable to regime change.
This situation is undeniably bad for business for all parties, but it isn't as simple as good guys and bad guys except insofar as any superpower who chooses to invade is always making a choice it doesn't have to. There are imperial ambitions and internal national squabbles intersecting here in ways that unfortunately reached a boiling point.
Something else I wanted to add is that just like I posted the position of the Russian oligarchs, I'd be remiss if I didn't do the same for the Ukrainians. One of the issues with the current situation is the maidan revolution/coup that overthrew the Yanukovych regime with its troubling links to neo-Nazis and pro-NATO Euro-enthusiasm. This can be understood as intercapitalist rivalry largely and is deeply tied into US/European financial and security interests in the region. One error some are making is conflating the Zelenskyy regime with the maidan movement groups when in actuality he's prosecuted several of them and many if the oligarchs including former President Poroshenko. He was sympathetic to the movement at the time, but represents a kind of faction within a faction since he ran on an anti-corruption platform. It's actually very surreal to see the tv show he was on considering current events.
View: https://youtu.be/GZ-3YwVQV0M
Anyway, the oligarchs in Ukraine and what they may want that got them into these squabbles with Russia are worth knowing. Here are some basic resources.
Ukrainian oligarchs - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Zelensky v oligarchs: Ukraine president targets super-rich
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky vows to build a country without oligarchs, but can he deliver?
www.bbc.com
Richest Ukrainians With Billions To Lose Close Ranks As Putin Unleashes War
Amid reports of attacks against Ukrainian cities and Russian troops entering the country, Ukraine’s billionaires are putting aside their differences and lending their support to the government in Kyiv.
www.forbes.com
Worth thinking about who closer ties to NATO/Europe really enrich, what allegiances and points of competition there are between Ukrainian oligarchs and their Russian counterparts and how Zelenskyy's crusade against some of these upper classes who funded the Maidan revolution might have made him vulnerable to regime change.
This situation is undeniably bad for business for all parties, but it isn't as simple as good guys and bad guys except insofar as any superpower who chooses to invade is always making a choice it doesn't have to. There are imperial ambitions and internal national squabbles intersecting here in ways that unfortunately reached a boiling point.
Have they even rolled out any T-14s yet?
It's too bad they told Bill Burns to kick rocks in 08.@Splinty
Feeding the Bear: A Closer Look at Russian Army Logistics and the Fait Accompli - War on the Rocks
Editor's note: Don't miss our comprehensive guide to Russia's war against Ukraine. Russia’s military buildup along the border with Ukraine haswarontherocks.com
The Russian Army Doesn’t Have Enough Trucks To Defeat Ukraine Fast
Russia needs trucks. But it’s woefully short.
Completely unconfirmed, but this is supposedly a Russian helicopter being shot down:
View: https://twitter.com/ebashneft/status/1497643100373766144
View: https://twitter.com/ebashneft/status/1497643100373766144
I think these people are either full of shit, or hoping to die of heart attacks in the near future.
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Did you guys see Putins talk with the oligarchs?
It seems that since taking office, Zelenskyy has not been particularly successful in tackling corruption in Ukraine.Note to everyone, as I'm sure you're already finding out, that 90% of images, memos, videos and even supposedly on the ground accounts you're discovering are mostly propaganda from either side. We're definitely getting mostly noise for awhile.
Something else I wanted to add is that just like I posted the position of the Russian oligarchs, I'd be remiss if I didn't do the same for the Ukrainians. One of the issues with the current situation is the maidan revolution/coup that overthrew the Yanukovych regime with its troubling links to neo-Nazis and pro-NATO Euro-enthusiasm. This can be understood as intercapitalist rivalry largely and is deeply tied into US/European financial and security interests in the region. One error some are making is conflating the Zelenskyy regime with the maidan movement groups when in actuality he's prosecuted several of them and many if the oligarchs including former President Poroshenko. He was sympathetic to the movement at the time, but represents a kind of faction within a faction since he ran on an anti-corruption platform. It's actually very surreal to see the tv show he was on considering current events.
View: https://youtu.be/GZ-3YwVQV0M
Anyway, the oligarchs in Ukraine and what they may want that got them into these squabbles with Russia are worth knowing. Here are some basic resources.
Ukrainian oligarchs - Wikipedia
Zelensky v oligarchs: Ukraine president targets super-rich
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky vows to build a country without oligarchs, but can he deliver?
Richest Ukrainians With Billions To Lose Close Ranks As Putin Unleashes War
Amid reports of attacks against Ukrainian cities and Russian troops entering the country, Ukraine’s billionaires are putting aside their differences and lending their support to the government in Kyiv.
Worth thinking about who closer ties to NATO/Europe really enrich, what allegiances and points of competition there are between Ukrainian oligarchs and their Russian counterparts and how Zelenskyy's crusade against some of these upper classes who funded the Maidan revolution might have made him vulnerable to regime change.
This situation is undeniably bad for business for all parties, but it isn't as simple as good guys and bad guys except insofar as any superpower who chooses to invade is always making a choice it doesn't have to. There are imperial ambitions and internal national squabbles intersecting here in ways that unfortunately reached a boiling point.
Do you think that the patriotic support he has garnered by visibly standing with his people since the invasion began, coupled with the increased willingness of the oligarchs to work with the government, could enable him to reform Ukraine more effectively if Ukraine somehow manages to repel the Russians?
I wonder if Islam will have anything to say about this after he wins tonight?