General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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kaladin stormblessed

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More that Russia finds those in alignment with their causes to disrupt enemies/frenemies and boosts them.

Russian bot farms greatly amplified farage and Brexit. It's of no surprise since farage and Putin share a hatred of the EU for very different reasons. But it's a common goal. So thumb on the scale in one of the ways that Russia is most effective.

You might say well that's fine and dandy as it's just Russian interests being pushed by Russia, but also it probably doesn't really feel good if you're inside of Britain and have a Russian propaganda campaign pushing your domestic issues artificially one way covertly in order to weaken your alliances with allies.

Isn't this what we all talk about the CIA being morally corrupt for doing? I see it as the same.
I wonder if all the Euro love will give whomever takes the next UK election the political will to walk back Brexit and make the case to join hands and sing holiday carols together as friends.
 

Sheepdog

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More that Russia finds those in alignment with their causes to disrupt enemies/frenemies and boosts them.

Russian bot farms greatly amplified farage and Brexit. It's of no surprise since farage and Putin share a hatred of the EU for very different reasons. But it's a common goal. So thumb on the scale in one of the ways that Russia is most effective.

You might say well that's fine and dandy as it's just Russian interests being pushed by Russia, but also it probably doesn't really feel good if you're inside of Britain and have a Russian propaganda campaign pushing your domestic issues artificially one way covertly in order to weaken your alliances with allies.

Isn't this what we all talk about the CIA being morally corrupt for doing? I see it as the same.
Those of us that are critical of overly-aggressive steps towards Russia to counter their own revanchist, imperialist desires for Eastern Europe and plans to destabilize Western Europe do not do so because we don't know what they are doing, or think they are in any way 'good' or 'better'.

We are critical because being too aggressive represents a dangerous destabilization of mutal nuclear deterrence, which threatens the entire world.

Childish arguments about who the 'goodies' and 'baddies' are in geopolitical power struggles won't matter if we see mushroom clouds outside our windows.
 
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Those of us that are critical of overly-aggressive steps towards Russia to counter their own revanchist, imperialist desires for Eastern Europe and plans to destabilize Western Europe do not do so because we don't know what they are doing, or think they are in any way 'good' or 'better'.

We are critical because being too aggressive represents a dangerous destabilization of mutal nuclear deterrence, which threatens the entire world.

Childish arguments about who the 'goodies' and 'baddies' are in geopolitical power struggles won't matter if we see mushroom clouds outside our windows.
You are such a pussy

most of us won’t see the cloud, we will be in it!
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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No

I’m just telling you not to get mad at me!

I’m just fucking around to distract myself from Odessa’s impending doom
Why would you think that 1) I'm mad at you? 2) Odessa faces impending doom?
 
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Why would you think that 1) I'm mad at you? 2) Odessa faces impending doom?
They’re staging an attack on Odessa now, they were going to wait until the land bridge was fully locked up but they’ve been stalling so they decided YOLO
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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They’re staging an attack on Odessa now, they were going to wait until the land bridge was fully locked up but they’ve been stalling so they decided YOLO
Dude. After a week of this what makes you think this will be successful?
 

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View: https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1499092801216262147?s=20&t=utMzZ-b02Jj6hOcOSQU_pw


Russia is now admitting to 500 KIA and 1500 wounded.

i have to imagine the real number is exactly halfway between the two claims.
Apparently US government sources have it at 2000, which is probably about right.

Casualties follow the 'how many people have you had sex with?' rule. You list enemies casualties as if you are a guy and your own casualties as if you are a girl.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Apparently US government sources have it at 2000, which is probably about right.

Casualties follow the 'how many people have you had sex with?' rule. You list enemies casualties as if you are a guy and your own casualties as if you are a girl.
2000 total or for the day?