General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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FINGERS

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It's a meme
I understand you take that meme more personally than others because you are in the business

I can't speak for all of those sources...but I can confirm that at least 2/3 have pushed complete bullshit at times in the last few years.

Please drunk rate this post and all other posts of mine...because...

Its a dumb meme mate.

You can't conflate oan with cnn. Even the Telegraph ffs.

I can't be arsed to walk you through it.

I tried earlier on. But you have been completely red pilled to think everyone is lying to you.

I know journalists out there reporting the news you consume. They're not liars.

I know camera men and it is men actually on that side. Who are not filming cgi pictures.

Yes there is a propaganda war going on. But you've made yourself look silly.

They are reporting what's going on to the best of their abilities. The female correspondents are also brave as fuck.

Fix up.

You come across as a basement dwelling dweeb at best. A Putin propagandist at worst.

Don't compare far right news channels who haven't even got a person on the ground the same as serious journalists.
 

Rambo John J

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Its a dumb meme mate.

You can't conflate oan with cnn. Even the Telegraph ffs.

I can't be arsed to walk you through it.

I tried earlier on. But you have been completely red pilled to think everyone is lying to you.

I know journalists out there reporting the news you consume. They're not liars.

I know camera men and it is men actually on that side. Who are not filming cgi pictures.

Yes there is a propaganda war going on. But you've made yourself look silly.

They are reporting what's going on to the best of their abilities. The female correspondents are also brave as fuck.

Fix up.

You come across as a basement dwelling dweeb at best. A Putin propagandist at worst.

Don't compare far right news channels who haven't even got a person on the ground the same as serious journalists.
Let it all out bud.

It is obviously a left vs right issue that has rustled them jimmies.

I don't operate on left vs right limitations...I see pure bullshit from both sides and their propagandist media sources. Truth is sprinkled it can barely dilute the BS.
 

NotBanjaxo

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Ukraine LIVE: Russia demands return of Alaska and Californian fort in fury at US sanctions
RUSSIA has demanded reparations from the US over the economic sanctions placed on the Kremlin by the West.

These include the return of historic settlements in Alaska and California. Duma member Oleg Matveychev, outlined on Russian state tv on Sunday a series of demands for both the US and Ukraine "after Ukraine’s demilitarization is completed." Speaking on Sunday Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, Mr Matveychev said "We should be thinking about reparations from the damage that was caused by the sanctions and the war itself because that too costs money and we should get it back."

 

La Paix

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Ukraine LIVE: Russia demands return of Alaska and Californian fort in fury at US sanctions
RUSSIA has demanded reparations from the US over the economic sanctions placed on the Kremlin by the West.

These include the return of historic settlements in Alaska and California. Duma member Oleg Matveychev, outlined on Russian state tv on Sunday a series of demands for both the US and Ukraine "after Ukraine’s demilitarization is completed." Speaking on Sunday Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, Mr Matveychev said "We should be thinking about reparations from the damage that was caused by the sanctions and the war itself because that too costs money and we should get it back."

I’m hoping everyone agrees to go with Cascadia over this idea. That would be great.
 
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The drone images were leaked to Frontal via an anonymous contact in Ukraine. They are two clips, one two minutes long, the other almost four minutes long. They show barely bearable footage: it's March 7, 2022, early afternoon local time. A Ukrainian surveillance drone is filming the E40 expressway a few kilometers west of Kiev.

North of the highway, the Russians have taken Kiev's suburbs. They have advanced to the road. The drone films a Russian tank position with the typical white sign a few meters from a gas station. In front of it is an apparently shot blue wrecked car. In the forest next to it, small but relatively sharp soldiers can be seen. They are carrying machine guns.

Perpetrators are apparently Russian soldiers

It is 2 p.m. and 16 minutes when the drone's camera films several cars. They are not military vehicles, but ordinary passenger cars, heading towards the center of Kiev. The first drivers apparently notice the Russian tanks and turn away - a silver-gray vehicle comes to a halt, stops. Then something terrible happens.

A civilian gets out of the car with his hands up and is shot, falling down behind his car. The perpetrators are obviously Russian soldiers. They run out of the tank position and across the roadway to the scene of the crime. They can be recognized by white ribbons. It is the distinctive mark of the Russian armed forces.

Does the footage show a war crime?

Firing on civilians - even more so on people who are obviously surrendering - is forbidden, a crime under the International Criminal Code. Is the footage genuine? After all, truth dies first in war, and all parties use propaganda for their own purposes. Images become a weapon there.

To verify the authenticity of the drone images, we are looking for the drone pilot. After many phone calls and a drive through many side streets in Kiev, we find him in a basement of the Ukrainian capital.

Drone pilot describes his observation

He calls himself Zanoza and wants to defend his country as a volunteer. In his life before the war, he dealt in electrical goods. We know his real name and age, but we have to promise not to make it public. After all, he is now fighting in the "Bugatti Company". Almost everyone here is a volunteer. Until recently, it was unthinkable for many of them that their city, their home, would be attacked.

Zanoza shows us his drone. It is a Mavic III, a professional film camera, not a military device. On the said March 7, 2022, Zanoza had the mission to observe the Russian positions on the E40 highway. And then he describes what he saw through his optics.

"I was watching the Russian tank positions on the road for a while." Zanoza, drone pilot

For a long time, he says, nothing happened. The gas station had been closed for days. Then civilian vehicles would have approached. One would have stalled and stopped.

"The driver got out of the car, put his hands up and was shot, by Russian soldiers." Zanoza, drone pilot

Later, the car would have been towed away and burned.

Authenticity of drone video can be verified on site

On the ground, we can check the video footage. They carry a time stamp. We compare the exact location on maps: Sadova Vulytsya, 2, Mriia, Kyivs'ka oblast, 08112. The location of the crime can also be found on Google Maps. The gas station, the adjacent forest, a house on the roadside - everything matches. The fact that at that time Russian forces were shelling the very nearby Kiev suburb of Iprin is also no secret.

The pictures from March 7 show the shot man being dragged away from his car into the ditch by Russian soldiers. A woman and a child were still traveling with him. They are later led by soldiers into the nearby forest. What happens to them then, the pictures do not show.

Russian President Vladimir Putin claims that there was no attack on Ukraine, that it was a "special operation" against "neo-Nazis". Civilians are not at risk, he said. The research exposes the words of the Russian ruler for what they were from the beginning - a lie.
 

Qat

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Heated heated.

The orcs thing obviously is problematic, albeit little surprising in the circumstances.
The Russian world thing can be interpreted in various ways tho, and here I'd guess the idea of restoring the soviet borders is the main point, and it's a troubling part of it for sure.

Good thing to know tho that some would be quite understanding if we would try to forcefully restore our old borders.
Maybe we should, eh? Starting by annexing all regions with a lot of German speakers perhaps. Giving out passports, having 'votes'. Have some special operations here and there.

Lots of people apparently would be like "why care about this", "don't do anything", "we made them do it!", "it's fake", "stop resisting", "no to sanctions", "Hillary did it" and so on. Mayor us "news" guys would root for us. Glorious!
 
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FINGERS

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Let it all out bud.

It is obviously a left vs right issue that has rustled them jimmies.

I don't operate on left vs right limitations...I see pure bullshit from both sides and their propagandist media sources. Truth is sprinkled it can barely dilute the BS.

Its not left or Right. It's right v wrong.

Fact versus fiction. You're so far gone you don't even realise what truth is these days.

Trump really pulled a number on the easily manipulated.