General Critical Race Theory

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Really?

I thought that by taking what was (in my opinion) a very reasonable position, and then taking it to an extreme in order to ridicule it, he was effectively attacking a "straw man"?
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What's always fucked my brain is that John Adams and John Quincy Adams (#2 and #6) didn't own slaves.
It's so easy to think of all these dudes as just a product of their times. Buuutttttt there are two presidents right off the bat that refused to own slaves, were against slavery, and plainly stated we wouldn't be free until all the slaves were free. Sooooo wtf the rest of y'all?
I wonder what people thought of those two day to day. Was being slave owning or against it just as casual as having an opinion on tax policy? Or was it more visceral like political party, but still accepted that people are on both sides? Or was it like abortion where people secretly/publicly hated the opposite opinion but both might get elected?
 

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What's always fucked my brain is that John Adams and John Quincy Adams (#2 and #6) didn't own slaves.
It's so easy to think of all these dudes as just a product of their times. Buuutttttt there are two presidents right off the bat that refused to own slaves, were against slavery, and plainly stated we wouldn't be free until all the slaves were free. Sooooo wtf the rest of y'all?
I wonder what people thought of those two day to day. Was being slave owning or against it just as casual as having an opinion on tax policy? Or was it more visceral like political party, but still accepted that people are on both sides? Or was it like abortion where people secretly/publicly hated the opposite opinion but both might get elected?

Its a known fact #2 and #6 rigged the election.

I thought everyone knew that?
 

Robbie Hart

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What's always fucked my brain is that John Adams and John Quincy Adams (#2 and #6) didn't own slaves.
It's so easy to think of all these dudes as just a product of their times. Buuutttttt there are two presidents right off the bat that refused to own slaves, were against slavery, and plainly stated we wouldn't be free until all the slaves were free. Sooooo wtf the rest of y'all?
I wonder what people thought of those two day to day. Was being slave owning or against it just as casual as having an opinion on tax policy? Or was it more visceral like political party, but still accepted that people are on both sides? Or was it like abortion where people secretly/publicly hated the opposite opinion but both might get elected?
I think it was casual. I don’t know politically as I tried to, after reading a specific book and not get caught up in the author’s opinions but stick to the facts, as he was very “socialist minded”.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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I'd like people to post examples of things that shouldn't be in textbooks. Each time I see somebody talking about the subject, it's usually in line with laws That are being passed. The laws seem needlessly broad about not allowing certain discussion or protecting the feel feels.
Yeh I try to avoid these conversations on line since I suspect most people have already chosen their team on the topic as a whole

But there are some major issues with the broad nature of something like the dont say gay bill

lets say a gay kid is bullied and sent to the principle* for an argument with another kid.

Neither the principal, teacher, nor guidance counselor is even allowed to discuss the issue at hand. Not even to assure that the child is okay mentally

Unfortunately, some homophobic citizens and politicians hear the word "gay" and they automatically relate it to sexual perversion

Another more basic example would be a teacher returning from a vacation. The kids may say "where were you?" And a male teacher wouldn't be allowed to say he went on vacation with his husband. The same for a female teacher and her wife

Basically, these broad laws explicitly and implicitly cause gay people to feel as if they are not equals. It's a shame

* that spelling was for CMNH
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Some people are calling for cameras in classroom to monitor teachers

I dont have kids. But if I did, I wouldn't want random parents to have be able to watch my kids at school. That's crazy
 

MMAHAWK

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It was something John Wayne infamously said.

Shows how recently things are fucked up re race relations, that kind of attitude being casually given in an interview for a major publication.
It wasn’t a coincidence I referenced Hondo

The interview was in 1971
Not exactly yesterday
 
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It was something John Wayne infamously said.

Shows how recently things are fucked up re race relations, that kind of attitude being casually given in an interview for a major publication.

well I'll be damned

“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” Wayne had said. “I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Sorry, I didn't realize the thread was CRT when I wrote that

Here's better wording on that tho. Hb 1557 has broad terms such as "instruction" that effectively intimidate school systems and teachers about being sued for mentioning anything related to sexual orientation

As a result, gay staff now feel threatened to hide who they are as if being gay is something wrong
 

MMAHAWK

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Sorry, I didn't realize the thread was CRT when I wrote that

Here's better wording on that tho. Hb 1557 has broad terms such as "instruction" that effectively intimidate school systems and teachers about being sued for mentioning anything related to sexual orientation

As a result, gay staff now feel threatened to hide who they are as if being gay is something wrong
Can straight teachers talk about their relationships?
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Can straight teachers talk about their relationships?
The problem is the implicit threat of law suits

Straight people aren't a marginalized community. So Straight teachers don't show up to work afraid of mentioning their partner

Here's a better example. Let's say a gay kid is bullied and wants to speak to the teacher. The teacher is unable to have an honest conversation about how the kid is not weird or bad for being gay

Supporters of the bill would say that a teacher should not be allowed to have that conversation. They say the parents should be notified

But some kids parents are homophobes. Those kids don't want their parents to know. But this bill initimates schools from offering the proper mental health counseling out due to the threat of lawsuits

So basically, the law will negatively effect LGBTQ students in various ways. It may even lead to otherwise avoidable suicides by LGBTQ kids