Jon Jones Hit and Run Megathread - threads merged here

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Greek777

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Bloody Elbow has it as their top story

Other sites are pulling it

If anything, it';s just a mark on shitty MMA journalism. Twitter and actually posting stories to legit MMA websites as news are 2 totally diff things

Bloody Elbow, MMA weekly and others should wait until the details are 100% confirmed. I'm sure SOMETHING happened. And FRB IS a credible source. BUT, places like MMA Junkie, Elbow, etc.. They should wait until there is official word

Random twitter account vs Huge MMA "news" site is a huge difference
 

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Also. The Josh Gross', Snowdens, Brookhouses etc are all very quick to attack FRB. Definitely seems like they want him to be wrong.

Either way. We're gonna know pretty soon

My gut tells me that if the UFC, Jackson, or Jones himself has not already issued a statement saying this is completely false.. SOMETHING is happening. No doubt.

If this was completely false. You'd have to figure Rumble would have been told "don't worry, this is a rumor and you'll be fine and still fighting".

Instead, he was told nothing. Silence is deafening.
 

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I think it's safe to assume SOMETHING has went down. And usually, where there's smoke, there's fire. My guess is, Zuffa has private plans in the air and are running some serious damage control maneuvers right now. Honestly, we may never know the real truth, once their legal & PR teams are fully involved (which they likely are already).

Luckily UFC 187 is still a really solid card. Sucks for AJ though.
 
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maybe overeem has hurt him again in training and crashed his car to cover for the injury?
 

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I believe 100% that the UFC and all its employees are WELL aware of the rumors flying like crazy

Even if FRB was not 100% correct, something obviously happened. if Rumble is saying he has no idea... That just solidifies it IMO

The UFC is 100% aware of the rumors. Now, let's say they were NOT true - you'd think they'd call Rumble RIGHT AWAY and say "don't worry, these are just rumors, we're gonna clear it all up, do not worry at all"

Instead, they have told him nothing. Which, IMO, means they don't even know and are scrambling to figure out whats going on and what they're gonna do


Could be completely wrong tho. Just like I said above.. Silence is not a good thing
 

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I think there is a mad scramble to cover up and keep as quiet as much as possible right now. Just got a big reebok deal...their big star just did a 1 day trip in rehab for coke...rumors of a hit and run, dui, possession, etc...yea not good
 

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ABQ said Jones is not in custody, but that there is an investigation

At this point, we know he was 100% involved in an accident and that there is an ongoing investigation about what happened.

We'll see how true the hit & run and drug thing is. But it would not be surprising, at all. Obviously there is a ton of legal shit involved and it's gonna take a little while for all this to come out OFFICIALLY.

I said it 10 times now but where there is smoke, there is fire. Add in the fact he has a DUI, had the coke thing happen. It's quite possible there is more to the story
 

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Some weird facts...

1) Chael's prediction a month ago
2) No booking record on ABQ detention sites
3) Journalists claiming Jones is out without citing sources, and sticking to that
4) No word from Zuffa
5) Those close to Jon saying they can't contact him

Puzzle pieces don't make a picture.
 

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It's funny to see the big name reporters get so mad at FRB on Twitter. They really can't stand him. I sense sour grapes.
 

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Some weird facts...

1) Chael's prediction a month ago
2) No booking record on ABQ detention sites
3) Journalists claiming Jones is out without citing sources, and sticking to that
4) No word from Zuffa
5) Those close to Jon saying they can't contact him

Puzzle pieces don't make a picture.
It's now 100% confirmed he was in an accident at the every least

And again, despite the fact he may not be in custody right now, ABQ claimed there is an ongoing investigation

So there is at least something. More than likely, even if the drug/hit and run stuff is not true, it definitely seems like something bad happened and I would not be surprised at all if he's out of the fight.
 

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Also, 1 more possibility to consider

If Jones was merely involved in a car accident. Why the silence?

A statement saying "The UFC can confirm Jon Jones was involved in a car accident. Unfortunately he will be forced to withdraw from his fight at UFC 187. However, contrary to initial reports, there was no wrong doing and this was just a case of an unfortunate accident"

If it was JUST a car accident, without any of the bad shit attached.. Why not just say that to put the rumor mill to rest? A rumor mill that is so strong it gives off a really bad image of their champion?

Again.. if it was just a regular car accident.. the UFC could easily end this entire thing by saying Jones was involved in an accident and it's very unfortunate but everyone is ok and there is nothing criminal related to the matter at all.

But they have not.. and apparently, his own coach and his opponent know nothing about the situation. You think they'd be the first ones to know.

I feel like if it were a simple accident, it'd be an open and shut case and they wouldn't be quiet for this long. At least that's what I feel

Maybe I'm completely wrong, and honestly, I hope I am. I do not wish any ill will on the guy. But if he DID fuck up and smash into cars, leaving the scene with drugs in his car/body.. then I have zero sympathy for him. Considering the DUI and the coke issue before, you can't help but speculate that this is every bit as bad as it seems.
 

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It's times like these that are eye opening as to just how Bush league the Ufc and mma journalism is.

Any other sports league would have issued a statement and we'd be watching the story on ESPN right now.
 

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It's now 100% confirmed he was in an accident at the every least

And again, despite the fact he may not be in custody right now, ABQ claimed there is an ongoing investigation

So there is at least something. More than likely, even if the drug/hit and run stuff is not true, it definitely seems like something bad happened and I would not be surprised at all if he's out of the fight.
Yeah. But there's a big difference between having and injury and being booked for a crime. If they're "investigating" a crime it looks like he wasn't arrested, which in turn makes it look like there was no DUI or drug possession. If he was drunk or there was dope in a car he was in that got into an accident, he'd be booked. I guess it's possible he's booked and we just don't know it. Two radically different possibilities though---one a mere accident/injury scenario, the other a criminal one.

But what I'm getting at is, if it's the criminal scenario, why isn't Jon showing as booked?

And if it's the mere accident scenario, why isn't Zuffa saying anything?
 

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He could have been booked and released or even just issued a citation depending on how crowded the jail is.
 

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It's funny to see the big name reporters get so mad at FRB on Twitter. They really can't stand him. I sense sour grapes.
They don't like his claiming not to be a journalist while posting facts which he readily takes credit for as a journalist would when proven correct, but then takes no responsibility for when he's wrong.

He's clearly a good source overall, but the claims to mere entertainment are bullshit.
 

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It's times like these that are eye opening as to just how Bush league the Ufc and mma journalism is.

Any other sports league would have issued a statement and we'd be watching the story on ESPN right now.
Spot on. But this is what you get when Zuffa controls the media.
 

WoodenPupa

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I mean, FRB can fool you into thinking he does take responsibility by saying "I jumped the gun", but why even say that if it's just "entertainment"?

Don't want to derail the thread, but that is my take.