NSFW Officer shoots and kills unarmed victim

[Punch]

If you wait you die.

I'd rather see someone innocent make it home alive.

You sign up. You volunteer to be a lawman. That's on you. No one made you choose that. Part of your duty is to put yourself in front of the innocent. Not act cowardly. Shooting first before you have a good reason to is cowardly to me. That does not embody the mantra of "To serve and protect."

I've been drawn on. Obviously i'm still here typing. Someone who is trained and practices vs. someone who is not trained and doesn't handle their weapon system every day is not an easy thing to do psychologically, but in my personal experience it's as smooth as butter physically.

 

[Punch]

All he had to do was stop with his boys, he might still be alive.

This as well. People need to have a healthy respect/fear for anyone pointing a gun at them. Cops are not fucking around these days, and are obviously willing to kill you before they have proof of wrongdoing.

 

[ThatOneDude]

This as well. People need to have a healthy respect/fear for anyone pointing a gun at them. Cops are not fucking around these days, and are obviously willing to kill you before they have proof of wrongdoing.

Or cops could start treating people as people and maybe people would be more cooperative.

 

[Punch]

Or cops could start treating people as people and maybe people would be more cooperative.

This would be ideal. We're not operating in a system like this anymore though it seems to me as sad as that is.

I want people to stop trying to kill one another. I get self defense. That's instinctual. However, I wish violence on no one.

 

[Zeph]

If you wait you die.

You realise the cop survived and the shooter died later from a gunshot wound to the stomach? Either way, that was a significantly different situation. The cop had every right to have his gun drawn in the original video, but he shoots him as he starts to comply by removing his hands from pockets/waistband, he didn't even try to see if the guy had a gun. In this one the cop probably should have had his gun drawn earlier and put the guy down when he started advancing on him in a threatening manner. Getting out of your car and advancing towards a police officer in a menacing manner is different from pulling your hands out of your waistband as you are being told to pull your hands out of your waistband.

 

[Darqnezz]

Or cops could start treating people as people and maybe people would be more cooperative.

Nah.

 

[Darqnezz]

This would be ideal. We're not operating in a system like this anymore though it seems to me as sad as that is.

I want people to stop trying to kill one another. I get self defense. That's instinctual. However, I wish violence on no one.

Well I wish violence on a lot. I've seen some heinous shit.

 

[Punch]

Well I wish violence on a lot. I've seen some heinous shit.

Interesting. I think you and i definitely reacted differently to seeing bad things happen to good people. What i'm getting from you is that you've seen some shit and wish harm on the perpetrators before they harm others, whereas i wish no one starts shit to begin with. Is that correct?

 

[Leigh]

Well I wish violence on a lot. I've seen some heinous shit.

You don't sound like someone I would want to be in law enforcement

 

[ThatOneDude]

You don't sound like someone I would want to be in law enforcement

Or training them
The violence I have seen make me want to, for the most part, avoid it

 

[Darqnezz]

Or training them
The violence I have seen make me want to, for the most part, avoid it

Good point. Law enforcement comes with a share of violence. I don't live in Mayberry. About a month ago some guy walked up to a cop car that was parked on the street & murdered a young officer. He gave no reason other than he didn't like cops. As a cop you can't run from violence. You are paid to respond to it. If you can't it's understandable. That's why you would make a great social worker & I make a great cop. No offense.

 

[Darqnezz]

You don't sound like someone I would want to be in law enforcement

I've heard people call your chosen profession human cock fighting. It's probably because they don't understand it. Same goes for law enforcement. It's hard to judge actions from outside the profession. I tell everyone that wants to see what it's like to take a ride along with cops that patrol a bad area of your city. Walk a mile in another's shoes.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Good point. Law enforcement comes with a share of violence. I don't live in Mayberry. About a month ago some guy walked up to a cop car that was parked on the street & murdered a young officer. He gave no reason other than he didn't like cops. As a cop you can't run from violence. You are paid to respond to it. If you can't it's understandable. That's why you would make a great social worker & I make a great cop. No offense.

But here's the thing, I've been in MUCH more violent situations and handled them without people being killed. I mean we had an Iraqi army unit draw their Ak's on my squad (outnumbered atleast 2 to 1) and no one died. We were able to talk them down with a language barrier. I do t have sympathy for cops being in violent situations, I've been there and I know there's ways out. When's the last time cops had an antiaircraft gun printed at them? The people in question with the cops had no weapons.

 

[Leigh]

I've heard people call your chosen profession human cock fighting. It's probably because they don't understand it. Same goes for law enforcement. It's hard to judge actions from outside the profession. I tell everyone that wants to see what it's like to take a ride along with cops that patrol a bad area of your city. Walk a mile in another's shoes.

You don't think cops should treat people as people in an effort to improve public relations. You wish violence on a lot of people.

I don't need to walk in your shoes to know that I don't feel that sort of person should be involved in law enforcement.

 

[Guy Smalley]

SBC?

Sucicde by cop

 

[Guy Smalley]

But here's the thing, I've been in MUCH more violent situations and handled them without people being killed. I mean we had an Iraqi army unit draw their Ak's on my squad (outnumbered atleast 2 to 1) and no one died. We were able to talk them down with a language barrier. I do t have sympathy for cops being in violent situations, I've been there and I know there's ways out. When's the last time cops had an antiaircraft gun printed at them? The people in question with the cops had no weapons.

What does that prove? In that instance that worked for you, for others soldiers they had their heads cut off on TV. You keep saying you done this etc hey who cares? Thanks for your service but write that in another post, this is about a guy reaching for something who they know is volatile, a young, felon who is a gang member, more unpredictable than most people, one who best be taken very seriously imo

 

[Guy Smalley]

a 911 caller who said three men had "flashed" a gun. And Cruz saw them "making a scene" on their way to the 7-Eleven near 2100 S. State Street.

Confronted by officers, the two men with Taylor held up their hands, while Taylor alone was "noncompliant."

Why do you insist on lecturing people what the law is ? You should understand that when the police are called with a menacing with gun they are going to investigate. two of the players stayed the cops have a right in that situation to question and detain to get the facts. Also you should know no state allow felons to own guns. The cops knew that he started being squirrelly got shot, why didn't the others get shot? More kids in gangs get shot than in Iraq its a very serious problem. I am glad the cop protected himself, he has a right too










So someone "claims" they saw someone "flash a gun". #1, open carry in Utah is not only legal, but it's one of the most encouraged states to do so.

#2, if someone did have a gun, what law were they breaking?

#3, if a law was being broken, did it justify this type of heightened threat?




Come on guys, do a LITTLE bit of research to find the facts yourself and make judgement. I would like to know what laws were "reported" being broken. We know at this point ZERO laws were "actually" broken, but what was the reported broken law-anyone?

 

[ThatOneDude]

What does that prove? In that instance that worked for you, for others soldiers they had their heads cut off on TV. You keep saying you done this etc hey who cares? Thanks for your service but write that in another post, this is about a guy reaching for something who they know is volatile, a young, felon who is a gang member, more unpredictable than most people, one who best be taken very seriously imo

I just don't see how that shooting was justified and I was using my life experiences to explain why.

 

[Guy Smalley]

I just don't see how that shooting was justified and I was using my life experiences to explain why.

I can show two othe vids same situation and the suspect pulls a gun in a split second and shoots personally this guy who is street smart knew the score did a sucicde by cop as why do those actions it happens

 

[ThatOneDude]

I can show two othe vids same situation and the suspect pulls a gun in a split second and shoots personally this guy who is street smart knew the score did a sucicde by cop as why do those actions it happens

And I can show more vids of cops shooting unarmed suspects and being pieces of shit.

 

[Guy Smalley]

And I can show more vids of cops shooting unarmed suspects and being pieces of shit.

Look at the numbers bad cops vs crime come on the issue is blown way out of proportion when you see crime in south Chicago black on black murders 14 -20 in a weekend but the president says nothing but hes from there but will policticalize furganson and undermine the justice system as it doesn't match his agenda? 1Bad cop is too many but that is not the main problem, its the crime around the drug trade work at mcdonalds for min wage or be in a gang sell drugs the quick money. Which leads to death, or jail the cops are trying to stop the bs between gang druging imo

 

[ThatOneDude]

Look at the numbers bad cops vs crime come on the issue is blown way out of proportion when you see crime in south Chicago black on black murders 14 -20 in a weekend but the president says nothing but hes from there but will policticalize furganson and undermine the justice system as it doesn't match his agenda? 1Bad cop is too many but that is not the main problem, its the crime around the drug trade work at mcdonalds for min wage or be in a gang sell drugs the quick money. Which leads to death, or jail the cops are trying to stop the bs between gang druging imo

These isolated incidents are becoming less and less isolated and are popping up all over the place. How much police abuse was covered up before everyone had a camera in their hand?

 

[Guy Smalley]

These isolated incidents are becoming less and less isolated and are popping up all over the place. How much polics abuse was covered up before everyone had a camera in their hand?

Its still 1% compared to total crime, i am not saying it shouldn't be investigated, and by a more independent indeny , i am just saying take away all bad cops the problem is still there drug related crime, Personally decriminalize it

 

[ThatOneDude]

I wish they would decriminalize a lot of drugs and would help people instead, but it's not going to happen when we ha e a for profit prison system and a police force who still sees weed as the Devils lettuce.

 

[Zeph]

Look at the numbers bad cops vs crime come on the issue is blown way out of proportion when you see crime in south Chicago black on black murders 14 -20 in a weekend but the president says nothing but hes from there but will policticalize furganson and undermine the justice system as it doesn't match his agenda? 1Bad cop is too many but that is not the main problem, its the crime around the drug trade work at mcdonalds for min wage or be in a gang sell drugs the quick money. Which leads to death, or jail the cops are trying to stop the bs between gang druging imo

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