General Bud Light Gets Woke

BeardOfKnowledge said:
Do you believe that VF Corporation cares deeply about trans rights?
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I'm happy to envision members of the LGBTQ community, taking with them happy memories from events centered on a cause they like (environmentalism) with loving friends and strangers by their side. So that's nice.

But no. The the firms primary motivation is the bottom line. Their marketing and stunts are gay capitalism for sure
 
kaladin stormblessed said:
The the firms primary motivation is the bottom line. Their marketing and stunts are gay capitalism for sure
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So given that we understand they're move is for cynical reasons. Do you believe that a company with no history of being socially conscious picked a drag person named after their historical rival as some sort of weird tribute to them, or as a very obvious way of mocking their rival?

p.s. Why are you using "gay" as a pejorative? It completely undermines the positions you're trying to occupy.
 
BeardOfKnowledge said:
So given that we understand they're move is for cynical reasons. Do you believe that a company with no history of being socially conscious picked a drag person named after their historical rival as some sort of weird tribute to them, or as a very obvious way of mocking their rival?

p.s. Why are you using "gay" as a pejorative? It completely undermines the positions you're trying to occupy.
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I'm not sold that there was malice in their choice of Patta gonia, but knowing the types in VC (including friends), I wouldnt be surprised if there was at least a bit of truth to your hypothesis (since you like fancy words)

I don't know what a pejorative is, Mr. Fancy lol

"Gay capitalism" is a term I heard recently. I think there are variants of the verbiage.

BeardOfKnowledge said:
Then it's a he, the same way Al Jolson was white even though he dressed up in blackface.
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I read an article the other day, which stated that he identifies as he/them in person and she/her when in drag.
 
kaladin stormblessed said:
I don't know what a pejorative is, Mr. Fancy lol

"Gay capitalism" is a term I heard recently. I think there are variants of the verbiage.
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It means using a word as an insult. If you call something gay as an insult it's difficult to take your other pro-LGBT positions seriously.

kaladin stormblessed said:
read an article the other day, which stated that he identifies as he/them in person and she/her when in drag.
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Drag is a man dressing up as a caricature of a woman and it stems from the theatrical history of women not being allowed to perform. It's literally the male/female equivalent of blackface and because of that I don't care what someone identifies as when they're in a costume.
 
BeardOfKnowledge said:
It means using a word as an insult. If you call something gay as an insult it's difficult to take your other pro-LGBT positions seriously.



Drag is a man dressing up as a caricature of a woman and it stems from the theatrical history of women not being allowed to perform. It's literally the male/female equivalent of blackface and because of that I don't care what someone identifies as when they're in a costume.
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I hear ya. I kinda got that and would've gotten it right on a multiple choice test (given a sentence for some context), but it was an opportinity to throw you a compliment while mocking myself

I also hear ya in that it sounds like it might be insult. I actually googled it after typing and before sending to double check that it wasn't lol

And in terms of you not caring what pronouns he/them/she/her prefers, lol OK. As long as that makes you happy, im happy for you
 
kaladin stormblessed said:
I hear ya. I kinda got that and would've gotten it right on a multiple choice test (given a sentence for some context), but it was an opportinity to throw you a compliment while mocking myself

I also hear ya in that it sounds like it might be insult. I actually googled it after typing and before sending to double check that it wasn't lol
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My guess is a bunch of marketing bros said "I can't believe we have to do this shit. You know what would be funny?"

And then the left didn't realize they're being mocked and the right doesn't have a sense of humor.

kaladin stormblessed said:
And in terms of you not caring what pronouns he/them/she/her prefers, lol OK. As long as that makes you happy, im happy for you
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It's not about my happiness. I don't have any time for the desires of those who would oppress others for their own vanity. If people are trans, I have no issue addressing them as they ask. When someone decides to play dress up on the weekend for fun, I treat them the same way I would anyone else who wears a costume for pleasure.
 
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