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[mysticmac]

My understanding regarding the email is that the emails were sent from the IP of the Green Beret suspect's account and that the FBI is saying that it was him who sent them, but they haven't looked into whether or not any of the historical content is accurate.

The account information used and IP addresses and locations are easy to find in any email. That is just how email was made to work.

I'm not sure how they would determine the emails were sent by him even if they were sent from an IP address associated with one or more of his devices unless they also have video of him using those devices at the time of the emails being sent. Even then, it doesn't mean his accounts/devices were not hacked. Though, I don't think that was the case. My money is on it being him who sent them.

With regard to verifying the content, I don't know exactly how that information would be stored or accessed at the federal level. However, he refers to events that occurred overseas which means the military, the CIA, and/or the other three letter agencies that with or oversee them such as the DoD. Given that, the CIA and FBI haven't had the best relationship over time. It wouldn't really surprise me if the FBI hasn't been given clearance for that level of information. Even if they eventually are given that, it will most likely be redacted.

So the FBI is simply saying the emails are real and were sent by the suspect, but the contents may or may not be fake which is not that interesting.

The PBD podcast released a short saying basically this. However, they also said the content was fake and Shawn Ryan released an apology/retraction stating as such. The only things I can find that Ryan has released state the opposite of that aka "Look. I was right." type of thing. I'm not sure PBD is getting its information.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IUphcmF2d3k

 

[mysticmac]

I think this is what PBD is referring to. They, PBD's crew, restated the information incorrectly. That news article claims it was Shoemate that publicly apologized on Twitter. I don't have a Twitter account, so can't tell, but the article says his apology was as follows: "If I said anything or did anything disrespectful to dishonor him, I apologize immediately," and that was directed toward the suspect's family. It wasn't anything specifically about whether the emails were fake, from someone else, or factually inaccurate.

 

[kvr28]

View: https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1876776688110985435

Do people really believe this bullshit?

 

[Shinkicker]

So the FBI is simply saying the emails are real and were sent by the suspect, but the contents may or may not be fake which is not that interesting.

The content is not interesting?

 

[Boltzmann Brain]

I think this is what PBD is referring to. They, PBD's crew, restated the information incorrectly. That news article claims it was Shoemate that publicly apologized on Twitter. I don't have a Twitter account, so can't tell, but the article says his apology was as follows: "If I said anything or did anything disrespectful to dishonor him, I apologize immediately," and that was directed toward the suspect's family. It wasn't anything specifically about whether the emails were fake, from someone else, or factually inaccurate.

Correct. I listened to the two hour podcast follow up. If PBD spun that as Shoemate apologizing for a faked email, then he has lost all credibility.

 

[mysticmac]

The content is not interesting?

Saying the email was sent by the suspect isn't that interesting without confirming for rejecting the content. If they confirmed the content that would be interesting. If they said the content is fake along with some proof, that would also be interesting as it would speak to the mindset of the suspect.

 

[mysticmac]

Correct. I listened to the two hour podcast follow up. If PBD spun that as Shoemate apologizing for a faked email, then he has lost all credibility.

To be fair, it was the guy that is typically off camera (basically, PBD's version of Young Jamie) that said that. PBD was asking him, so I don't think he knew. PBD took what his guy said as the truth. He still has his name on it though.

 

[Shinkicker]

Saying the email was sent by the suspect isn't that interesting without confirming for rejecting the content. If they confirmed the content that would be interesting. If they said the content is fake along with some proof, that would also be interesting as it would speak to the mindset of the suspect.

Speaking to the content

How much time passed between the time Ryan said he was doing a podcast about this guy and posting the podcast? It didn’t seem like much time but in that time someone very high up in the military contacted Ryan. And the DEA agent who just happened to be mentioned in the email contacted him. That seems weird to me.

 

[mysticmac]

Speaking to the content

How much time passed between the time Ryan said he was doing a podcast about this guy and posting the podcast? It didn’t seem like much time but in that time someone very high up in the military contacted Ryan. And the DEA agent who just happened to be mentioned in the email contacted him. That seems weird to me.

I don't know the answer to your question, but typically the podcast contacts the guest or vice versa well in advance of filming the podcast. Information is exchanged regarding why the requestor thinks doing the podcast is a good idea.

In the podcast, Shoemate says he was contacted by the suspect a few days prior to the event at the Trump tower as an attempt to get this information out to the public because he was not having luck with MSM. Shoemate contacted Ryan, and from what Ryan said on the podcast also contacted him through his contact link on his website during that same timeframe. Ryan didn't check his messages for that link until during the podcast though.

Shoemate, who I assume knows Ryan much better, contacted him as well. I assume his contact went through other means that Ryan checks much more frequently. I also assume Shoemate sent Ryan the screenshots of the messages between him and the suspect which grabbed Ryan's attention urging him to do what he labeled an "Emergency Episode".

Both Ryan and Shoemate mentioned they contacted the feds (I can't remember which organization/department) which would explain why they were contact by the people you've mentioned.

Editing podcasts can be done rather quickly. For example, the Trump/Rogan podcast was posted the same day it was filmed. I think that took around twelve hours. I don't know what time Ryan's podcast was filmed versus when it was aired, but it could have been a similar timeframe.

The podcast was posted on 1/3, the event occurred on 1/1, so contact was made between the suspect and Shoemate around a week prior to the podcast being posted. For a national security topic, a week turnaround does seems likely. Ryan and Shoemate's contact was likely quick before they decided to both schedule the podcast/flights/etc as well as both of them contacting the feds. Once the event in Vegas occurred, I'm not surprised the feds would respond quickly to attempt to gain whatever control they could before the story got out.

 

[Shinkicker]

Both Ryan and Shoemate mentioned they contacted the feds (I can't remember which organization/department) which would explain why they were contact by the people you've mentioned.

I Know Shoemate said he called the feds. I didn’t recall Ryan saying he did. And I didn’t think Shoemate would tell the feds he was going on the podcast. Shoemate still does work for the government, doesn’t he? If he mentioned going on the podcast you would think the Feds would say, “Hell naw!”

 

[Shinkicker]

@mysticmac

Go Back and listen to first 2 mins. Ryan didn’t call anyone. He heard about the email from his producer on Jan 2 And proceeds to do an interview. The phone calls start while he is still doing that interview. That’s why he freaked out and then took his family into hiding.

 

[mysticmac]

I Know Shoemate said he called the feds. I didn’t recall Ryan saying he did.

He mentioned it right after Shoemate did, but he didn't really talk about it. He just said something like, "Yeah, I did too."

Shoemate still does work for the government, doesn’t he?

I thought they mentioned he retired on the show. Maybe I'm misremembering though.

 

[Shinkicker]

He mentioned it right after Shoemate did, but he didn't really talk about it. He just said something like, "Yeah, I did too."


I thought they mentioned he retired on the show. Maybe I'm misremembering though.

He is retired but I thought they said he still does contract. who knows?

 

[Shinkicker]

He mentioned it right after Shoemate did, but he didn't really talk about it. He just said something like, "Yeah, I did too."


I thought they mentioned he retired on the show. Maybe I'm misremembering though.

ok, at 6 mins in Ryan says that Shoemate shared his stuff with the FBI and Shawn says ‘we will too’.


And yes Shoemate is retired and now kinda known for whistleblowing. Lol

 

[mysticmac]

Go Back and listen to first 2 mins. Ryan didn’t call anyone. He heard about the email from his producer on Jan 2 And proceeds to do an interview. The phone calls start while he is still doing that interview. That’s why he freaked out and then took his family into hiding.

Don't tell me what to do, woman!

ok, at 6 mins in Ryan says that Shoemate shared his stuff with the FBI and Shawn says ‘we will too’.


And yes Shoemate is retired and now kinda known for whistleblowing. Lol

Yeah, I just got done rewatching the first five-ish minutes.

 

[mysticmac]

ok, at 6 mins in Ryan says that Shoemate shared his stuff with the FBI and Shawn says ‘we will too’.


And yes Shoemate is retired and now kinda known for whistleblowing. Lol

From around eight minutes to around twelve minutes, Shoemate says he got the message from the suspect on NYE which is the day before the attack. That was not when the suspect initially attempted to contact him though. Shoemate just didn't see the original message until NYE.

I still remember a part of the show where he mentions the suspect wrote he needs to talk to him by either 12/30 or 12/31 because he would be gone after that.

 

[oblongo]

Seb Gorka, Trump's incoming director of counter-terrorism, basically slandered Shawn Ryan and Sam Shoemate, calling them liars based on "reporting" from some clickbaity YouTuber. The YouTuber has since retracted his claims and apologized. Gorka hasn't. This country is in the best of hands.

 

[Uncle Tom Doug]

Seb Gorka, Trump's incoming director of counter-terrorism, basically slandered Shawn Ryan and Sam Shoemate, calling them liars based on "reporting" from some clickbaity YouTuber. The YouTuber has since retracted his claims and apologized. Gorka hasn't. This country is in the best of hands.

Bro, he's the spokesman for Relief Factor, do you think he'd be a spokesman if he wasn't the best and brightest?