Society Derek Chauvin Trial - Live Thread

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kaladin stormblessed

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Note: By no means am I discounting the video (which I haven't watched) or the existence of white privilege.
since you didnt watch it, i wasnt going to opine

but short version, thst video wss about a black men 8n the suberbs. pulled over at gun point and being scared for his life... and they had the wrong man
 

Hauler

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since you didnt watch it, i wasnt going to opine

but short version, thst video wss about a black men 8n the suberbs. pulled over at gun point and being scared for his life... and they had the wrong man
Shit like that is appalling.
 

Filthy

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Get your predictions in.

2nd degree unintentional murder - NOT GUILTY
3rd degree murder - NOT GUILTY
2nd degree manslaughter - GUILTY

4 yrs in the clink.
Murder2, sentenced to 15, lined up for 10.
Sentencing reduction on appeal.
 

Hauler

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This might be the most-watched verdict since OJ.
 

Filthy

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You're really all in on the murder 2 charge, eh?
unintentional death in commission of a felony. You have to believe that Chauvin's actions were within MSP guidelines OR that they did not contribute substantially to George Floyd's death to get away from Murder2.

I don't think anyone who's listened to the testimony of the prosecution witnesses and watched the video would come to either of those conclusions. Given the social climate, I think it's the only time that a police officer is going to get "white justice". We're never going to get to where cops get "black justice", but this is a start.

Chauvin actually had George Floyd in the recovery position when they took him out, and then put him prone (only authorized while placing in restraints). The way Chauvin held Floyd down with the knee on the neck is "never authorized or trained".
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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unintentional death in commission of a felony. You have to believe that Chauvin's actions were within MSP guidelines OR that they did not contribute substantially to George Floyd's death to get away from Murder2.

I don't think anyone who's listened to the testimony of the prosecution witnesses and watched the video would come to either of those conclusions. Given the social climate, I think it's the only time that a police officer is going to get "white justice". We're never going to get to where cops get "black justice", but this is a start.

Chauvin actually had George Floyd in the recovery position when they took him out, and then put him prone (only authorized while placing in restraints). The way Chauvin held Floyd down with the knee on the neck is "never authorized or trained".
You should look up 3rd degree assault for Minnesota.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Is there somewhere you can put money in this?

I'd like to know the over/under on people in the courtroom loudly invoking deities after the verdict is read.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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why? you don't think killing someone is "grave bodily harm" or you don't think George Floyd was in fear of "grave bodily harm?
Given this explainer, no.

. The criminal charge is a felony and can be brought against a defendant under the following circumstances:

  • The alleged victim suffers more than one bruise to his or her body, or sustains bodily harm to the neck, eyes, or head, and is younger than four years of age.
  • There is a demonstrated pattern of child abuse and the assaulted party is a minor.
  • Substantial bodily harm occurs because of the alleged assault.


Substantial bodily harm is significant, as the term implies, and may include the following:

  • Fractures
  • Non-permanent, deleterious impact on organ function
  • Bodily member suffering temporary impairment or loss of function
  • Significant, temporary disfigurement
 

Filthy

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so you don't think George Floyd was in fear of any of those things?

because the statute is that you do those things or you cause someone to fear those things.

Maybe I'm not the one who needs to look in to MN criminal law?

EDIT - they also called EMS because he had a cut/abrasion on his mouth, and I'm guessing he had more than one bruise...
 
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BeardOfKnowledge

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so you don't think George Floyd was in fear of any of those things?

because the statute is that you do those things or you cause someone to fear those things.

Maybe I'm not the one who needs to look in to MN criminal law?
Doesn't say anything in there about "in fear of". Even that would be a long stretch given that anyone with a lick of sense is in fear of that any time they interact with the police.
 

Filthy

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Doesn't say anything in there about "in fear of". Even that would be a long stretch given that anyone with a lick of sense is in fear of that any time they interact with the police.
That's why I read Minnesota Statute 609.02 subd. 10 instead of whatever you posted.

"Subd. 10.Assault.

"Assault" is:


(1) an act done with intent to cause fear in another of immediate bodily harm or death; or

(2) the intentional infliction of or attempt to inflict bodily harm upon another."