Where are you getting such a statistic?Lmao at the Impeachment Games
More than half of Americans STILL believe Bill Clinton was never impeached
Is anyone here actually shocked at these 'accusations'? *gasp*Summary for the ADD crowd:
This is a really stupid point.Is anyone here actually shocked at these 'accusations'? *gasp*
Does anyone here think this stuff is really anything new or surprising?
Does anyone here think that other presidents' administrations before have never ever ever had any such similar dealings with other countries, doing favors, exchanging dirt on opponents, transferring 'support' money, etc?
Your point: Everyone is doing it.Nicely put, but you're not really backing up your point. Just slandering mine.
Tell me where I'm wrong.
Thanks for clarifying. Nicely said actually.Your point: Everyone is doing it.
Implication: It isn't that bad.
Ignoratio elenchi mixed with argumentum ad populum.
The idea that a wrong deed shouldn't be punished because it's (in your opinion) commonplace is just stupid. There is a precedent to set, especially when dealing with the high-level, influential offenders.
The enforcement of the rule of law is a large part of what keeps a system working. And as I pointed out to @IschKabibble, the Republicans had control of the House for 6/8 years of the Obama presidency. If he had done something of this caliber, of course they would have started impeachment proceedings.
So he either did or he didn't, but that's neither here nor there. Trump did do something wrong and he should be impeached for it.
lol @ this in the US.The enforcement of the rule of law is a large part of what keeps a system working.
Uh huhThanks for clarifying. Nicely said actually.
However I still think its absurd to have such a freak-out circus over some very minor, and yes commonplace actions. Its just not a realistic reaction, I didn't see a fraction of this much freak out when Obama was fucking bombing children in multiple countries. That was OK but Trump having a friendly chat on the phone and casually asking for some dirt on Biden and o my god we have to impeach!
It's the relative reactions to relative crimes that I'm criticizing. The MSM is making this tiny sliver of corruption into a mountain of outrage, when in truth every single President for decades (your beloved Obama included) has been drowning in corruption far more horrific. MSM overlooks crime after crime after crime, glorifies war and mass murder, constant interference in other countries, destruction, invasion, occupation and 'regime change' all over the globe, but now suddenly decides to get outraged over some casual sling on a phonecall?? It's simply absurd imo, USA has been meddling in foreign elections since forever.
The whole tone of that video is nuts, they highlight simple conversational lines from the call as if they are shocking, like its a crime to congratulate a president on his election win lol
And what if the dirt on Biden's son is true? How does that compare? What if Biden himself IS actually making a profit via corrupt business in Ukraine, and meddling with its politics to cover his ass? Oh no but that can't be true, obviously Biden is innocent lets just keep the focus on Trump.
And no, if anyone had dirt like this on Obama (and Hillary, which they did lol), they would not have started impeachment proceedings as fervently because they would not have had the MSM on their side cheerleading and inflating it up for the public. MSM protected Obama from start to finish, even though his war crimes and mass murdering absolutely dwarfs this stupid little scandal.
I agree with your point in general about whataboutism not being a defence against bad behaviour... but not in this case.