In any case, it's not unreasonable for me to say that what you're saying makes online games harder doesn't translate to live games. People been trying to cheat at cards since literally forever.
You focused on the cheating instead of everything else that was said.
The reason online got so hard so fast is a multitude of reasons.
1. Was that you can play thousands of hands on a trainer and get
a years worh of Live play hands in essemtially a couple weeks online.
2. Tracking software: The ability to have a database to go over and study
every hand you have ever played improved online player skill exponentially
It allowed players to pull up there last 200K hands and go over every single mistake they made.
You simply cant do that live... unless you have a court reporter
tracking your every hand every time you play. LOL
3. HUDS: The invention of HUDS taught online players the math and precision of
exploitative play... Takes years to learn those concepts in a Live game but with an
online HUD its right in your face.
ie " Villain is 3betting XYZ percent from the BTN therefore Villains range
is to wide and has a leak"
Big Blind is folding XYZ% therefore BB is too tight and has a leak.
All stuff that takes thousands of hours to learn at a Live table.
Online... a 17 year old with a trainer becomes a master at it in within a week
HUDs I don't consider cheating as long as its known that a site accepts HUDs
Now if you playagainst opponents who arent using a HUD then thats kinda cheating.
Anyway it all went down hill when the solvers and computer speeds went through the roof
Then came the bots...
Hopefully GG Poker and the Pros like Phil Gafound will continue cleaning up and saving
the online game but if not...
The Pros maintain there is no need to panic and tell me there
is plenty of time to switch to live and online PLO within the next
5 years.
PLO and Tournament online play hasn't been invaded like Holdem... yet
Anyway good discussion