I've not seen my Iranian family in probably 25 years so fuck it. Do your fucking worst and see what happens.
General So This Is How The Iran War begins
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Nah, Trump's 'fire and fury' rhetoric made North Korea shit their pants so much that they accidentally let off their first ever thermonuclear test a month later and then were still shaking so much that they tested their first ever ICMB capable of hitting the US.
But Trump's calling all the shots and the North Koreans are suddenly just negotiating because they are terrfied, and not because they are just doing the same strategy they always have only with way more leverage.
The justification for Trump's Iran move is perfectly logical from an Israeli and Saudi perspective. The thing is, Barry O, fuckwit that he was, was the first US President since Nixon who wasn't a complete Saudi-Israeli cuck. He knew there wasn't much he could do, but at least tried to Make America Great Again, rather than just bend over and Make Israel and Saudi Arabia Great Again.
Arianny Celeste has eaten less Saudi shit than your orange God.
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I've read the Israeli government is pro-war, Netenyahu is reportedly very close with the President's son-in-law so if the Israelis are indeed pushing for conflict then I'd be surprised if there were no connection to the U.S. position.
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You sir are correct and the imbecile in this case.
If the talks go belly up then we will be back to war talks about north Korea too.
Just nuke both of them.
In a wide ranging phone call to Fox & Friends, President Donald Trump repeated his objection to the 2015 nuclear agreement that rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
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Shameful acts by us here in the States, we never take responsbility and we never give the true time line
You sick rat
This is exactly what Turmp fucked up, the moderates where gaining power and now he gave a huge platform for the backward hard liners to take control again
The reason we even had this piece of shit current goverment in Iran was because of what we did to Iran sabotaging the goverment and mossadegh
We have more blood on our hands than anyone, shame on us here in the states
Did I miss the big beautiful wall? Or the Muslim ban? How about ISIS, they irrelevant yet? Obamacare? The infustructure plan?
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Isis yes, ban is in effect but certain parts are being held up by courts, the wall he has been trying to do and is gaining ground, obamacare is total shit and fucked me and they shouldve already had a plan before Trump got there, that is the republican fuck up but i trust it will be gone before his term is up. Is it hard for people like you to name the good things as well, or do you just try to focus on the bad so you can talk shit about Trump? Do you prefer Trump fails and the country fails, or would you prefer Trump succeeds and the country succeeds? It seems you and your little buddies around here would rather see the country fail but have a guy you like in there as oppose to a guy you dont like and the country succeeding. I like you but grow up my friend.
We sure as fuck do and how exactly do you think America got here today, by shaking hands and kissing babies, and being nice, and not being sneaky? Sorry my man you should know better. You should know what it takes to truly rule this world, shit you should know what it takes to succeed in life and in business and being nice all the time and doing the "right" thing doesnt exist unless you are the star of a movie. You think Arnold got where he is by being this super nice guy who never fucked anyone over or did sneaky shit? UNFORTUNATELY you do not get to the top without being a prick sorry. I wish the world was different but its not, it is what it is. Be a pussy get pushed around, be strong and you wont be pushed around.
It's not about being a ncie guy, we went above and beyond in disrupting the Iranian goverment decades ago with Mossadegh, now all these problems where caused by us, people are dead due to the US fucking iwth stuff it never should, it's morally bankrupt to say the least
I do not disagree with you at all, but the problem is like you said we fucked that place big time and the truth is most of those countries are full of people who hate the US and whether you can blame them or not that isnt the point, its the point of now since that is the way it is you need to do the right things. I will put it to you this way. Israel could literally give the Palestinians their own state, land whatever they want and they would still never leave the Jewish people alone or stop chanting their deaths. The hate is deep and nothing is going to stop any of it ever. So sorry you dont like the way the world works and I dont really either but we have to do what needs to be done. I for one would obviously rather protect you, me and everyone here in America before I care about the Iranians especially based on what we see from them.
People in the country have become the biggest pussies out of any era ever. Im actually disgusted in the whole liberal agenda, its a fucking joke for real. Its like living in a fairy tale and waiting for happy endings that will just come because good conquers evil lol. Fuck man, gone are the days of the tough people that would be beat the shit out of their bully, or take a loss like a man, or not cry all the time with this PC shit, or expect all sunshine and rainbows and holding hands and singing together lol.
I agree, but I also look at things from a world view. I hate the concept of nationlism, be it here, be it in Iran, be it anywhere. At the end of the day we are on this spinning tennis ball, we are all human, never understood why a life in someone's country is worth more than a life someone is living in another part of the world.
Again I totally agree but since we live in the world we live in those types of thoughts and sentiments get us nowhere. Trust me I hate that I even have to write it because it sucks how fucked up this world can be and THAT IS WHY most of my time is not worrying about any of this. The only time i ever talk politics is with you guys, I literally never bring it up in my day to day life. I consume myself with happiness and appreciate every single day that I am alive, have a roof over my head, have a safe place to put my head at night, a great wife, a great family, an amazing beautiful wonderful kitty, 3 good friends lol and successful.
