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This appears to be the room style. 1705 sqft with "panoramic views of the Las Vegas strip"
 
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Pic of death. Gore.
Not meant to be gratuitous but I think it's too easy for these events to be "a shooting".

Here's the reality.

 
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59 dead now.
The hidden number are the permanently disabled and brain injuries. You always hear "2 dead, 5 injured" or whatever.
I've worked in a PM&R facility after a mass trauma happened. So I saw what was on the news and the reality.

Soooo many never walking again, permanent life pain, brain injuries to a toddler level requiring lifelong 24 hour care, etc.

I just assume its X dead, 2X essentially life over requiring caretakers. Our news friendly sugar coating really does an injustice to the victims.
 

lueVelvet

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I agree, had to be joined rooms or a massive suite
Yes. He did this quite often. He was a high roller so they would give him huge rooms so he would stay and drop more money into the poker machines. Once he hit big they would kick him out and he would stay at another casino free of charge in hopes he would drop and lose more money.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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The hidden number are the permanently disabled and brain injuries. You always hear "2 dead, 5 injured" or whatever.
I've worked in a PM&R facility after a mass trauma happened. So I saw what was on the news and the reality.

Soooo many never walking again, permanent life pain, brain injuries to a toddler level requiring lifelong 24 hour care, etc.

I just assume its X dead, 2X essentially life over requiring caretakers. Our news friendly sugar coating really does an injustice to the victims.
Crazy to think how much pain and suffering one asshole can inflict on such a large number of individuals and their families.

The hospitals must have been a shit show last night. Bless them emergency response staff.
 
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I'm gonna try and not make too many comments. Surely something more is behind this...Mental illness or just...I dunno...It just seems surreal that someone would flip out to that extent.

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The hospitals must have been a shit show last night. Bless them emergency response staff.

One hospital had 104 people show up.
I don't know if that increased or not. That alone is insane.
 

lueVelvet

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I'm gonna try and not make too many comments. Surely something more is behind this...Mental illness or just...I dunno...It just seems surreal that someone would flip out to that extent.

:/
We’re thinking this is what the issue was. There is a history of mental illness in the family. It wouldn’t surprise me if something switched in his brain and he just snapped.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Crazy to think how much pain and suffering one asshole can inflict on such a large number of individuals and their families.

The hospitals must have been a shit show last night. Bless them emergency response staff.
I saw a picture of the ER, out of respect I am not going to post it. The people working are amazing to do their job with all that going on.
 

Hauler

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Yes. He did this quite often. He was a high roller so they would give him huge rooms so he would stay and drop more money into the poker machines. Once he hit big they would kick him out and he would stay at another casino free of charge in hopes he would drop and lose more money.
I know you said he was a professional gambler - but how did he earn all his money to become a gambler?
If he played "poker machines" I'm guessing he was doing it more for the thrill and wasn't much of a skill guy playing against other people. Obviously speculating there - but I'm curious to know what he did before he moved to LV.
 

Sheepdog

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The hidden number are the permanently disabled and brain injuries. You always hear "2 dead, 5 injured" or whatever.
I've worked in a PM&R facility after a mass trauma happened. So I saw what was on the news and the reality.

Soooo many never walking again, permanent life pain, brain injuries to a toddler level requiring lifelong 24 hour care, etc.

I just assume its X dead, 2X essentially life over requiring caretakers. Our news friendly sugar coating really does an injustice to the victims.
Guerilla groups fighting asymmetric wars have been known to rig weapons with the specific intention of maiming rather than killing, knowing that it can actually be more devastating for the enemy both in terms of long-term cost and the psychological impact of people seeing the result rather than just a closed coffin.

It always seems a bit flippant that 'wounded' includes people who sprained their ankle running away and someone who suffered severe brain damage.

People like to be positive and act as if any fate is better than death, but it's just simply not true.
 

Limpy

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@Splinty can you make this thread live? I'm working but trying to follow along here. It would make it easier if it was live.

Thanks!
 

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I know you said he was a professional gambler - but how did he earn all his money to become a gambler?
If he played "poker machines" I'm guessing he was doing it more for the thrill and wasn't much of a skill guy playing against other people. Obviously speculating there - but I'm curious to know what he did before he moved to LV.
News said accountant at Lockheed Martin.
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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I know you said he was a professional gambler - but how did he earn all his money to become a gambler?
If he played "poker machines" I'm guessing he was doing it more for the thrill and wasn't much of a skill guy playing against other people. Obviously speculating there - but I'm curious to know what he did before he moved to LV.
In Vegas they pay people to play slots. If you have the time and money you can win at anything.
 

lueVelvet

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I know you said he was a professional gambler - but how did he earn all his money to become a gambler?
If he played "poker machines" I'm guessing he was doing it more for the thrill and wasn't much of a skill guy playing against other people. Obviously speculating there - but I'm curious to know what he did before he moved to LV.
Real estate.
 

Hauler

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We’re thinking this is what the issue was. There is a history of mental illness in the family. It wouldn’t surprise me if something switched in his brain and he just snapped.
Mental illness is scary shit. That's generally what's at the core of these mass shootings. I wonder if he was previously diagnosed and just fell off his meds?