The Great Outdoors

[sparkuri]

That seems like a good plan. And I'm sure you know this, but don't burn it! I think they have a poison ivy specific herbicide now available at the standard box stores. Maybe that could help if the base starts sprouting again.

I remember reading a couple years ago about some dude that took some kids camping and he burned a bunch (on accident because he was a dolt) and they all got it really bad. Like in their eyes and lungs and stuff like that. What a maroon....

That is crazy.
I had no idea what it was, I'd never seen it in my life.
I thought poison ivy was a cousin of stinging nettles.
I was walking through the ozarks, a couple hundred acres, and touched it & said "hey what's this vine, is this concord?"

"Don't touch that!!!"

We don't have this where I'm from.

 

[Grateful Dude]

That is crazy.
I had no idea what it was, I'd never seen it in my life.
I thought poison ivy was a cousin of stinging nettles.
I was walking through the ozarks, a couple hundred acres, and touched it & said "hey what's this vine, is this concord?"

"Don't touch that!!!"

We don't have this where I'm from.

I grew up with it everywhere in the Midwest, and it also thrives down here in TX. I'm just programmed to automatically look for it at this point. For as much as I have been in the thick of it, I think I must be one of the lucky ones that don't react much to it. But some of the people I work with have to be very careful because they have strong and bad reactions to it (can take them weeks to recover fully). So I just try to be that nagging guy just to try and keep everyone safe/healthy

 

[Grateful Dude]

That is crazy.
I had no idea what it was, I'd never seen it in my life.
I thought poison ivy was a cousin of stinging nettles.
I was walking through the ozarks, a couple hundred acres, and touched it & said "hey what's this vine, is this concord?"

"Don't touch that!!!"

We don't have this where I'm from.

And just FYI - the burning of it is much worse than just having it on your skin. The oils can transfer in the smoke and then can get in the eyes and lungs. And that is no bueno at all

 

[Hauler]

That is crazy.
I had no idea what it was, I'd never seen it in my life.
I thought poison ivy was a cousin of stinging nettles.
I was walking through the ozarks, a couple hundred acres, and touched it & said "hey what's this vine, is this concord?"

"Don't touch that!!!"

We don't have this where I'm from.

I was on a camping trip with a dude who grabbed an 8' log out of the woods and proceeded to cut it up with a chainsaw. On this log was an obvious poison ivy vine with hair all over it.

Thankfully I was able to get the vine off the logs before they chucked it in the fire, but he ignored my advice to change clothes and wash up with soap and water.

3 days later he was covered in blisters and had to go to the hospital. They ended up giving him steroid shots.

 

[Grateful Dude]

3 days later he was covered in blisters and had to go to the hospital. They ended up giving him steroid shots.

I've seen this happen to a few people, and this is why I'm the nagging guy!

It's bad for some.

 

[Rambo John J]

Yep
Don't fuck with Urushiol

@sparkuri when all the leaves are out you will be able to tell how much you have...I would guess some of the leaves on the ground and the soil will have some amounts of the oil in them/it...it takes many years to break down.

We have Ivy that climbs to treetops and the poison oak bushes that grow to small tree/bushes...I have learned the hard way many many times. Have had it on my dick and it got 3 times normal width(still was a micropenis tho)

Gotta have a routine for clothing and skin anytime you deal with it. as @Hauler said

Some people don't get it, but most do...if you don't get it bad and you break your skin, you will become more vulnerable from then on(at least I did)

I have donated/tossed tools before because the risk wasn't worth it

 

[Rambo John J]

I've seen this happen to a few people, and this is why I'm the nagging guy!

It's bad for some.

Be that guy

I can spot it instantly even as a first year seedling

You fuck up once and you get approx 20+ days of real discomfort and it will affect your sleep...not worth it...always beware

 

[member 3289]

I wipe my ass with poison ivy when I run out of toilet paper.

You guys are pussies.

 

[Grateful Dude]

That is crazy.
I had no idea what it was, I'd never seen it in my life.
I thought poison ivy was a cousin of stinging nettles.
I was walking through the ozarks, a couple hundred acres, and touched it & said "hey what's this vine, is this concord?"

"Don't touch that!!!"

We don't have this where I'm from.

And just FYI, if getting in to this is something you're concerned with, they make a soap product that breaks the oils down. The people that I know that get it bad use it regularly and swear by it. If you're ever planning on cutting it down, or digging up the roots, this would be a good idea. Just wash with this stuff ASAP when your done working in it.

Tecnu

 

[member 3289]

I have donated/tossed tools before because the risk wasn't worth it

LOL

 

[sparkuri]

Yep
Don't fuck with Urushiol

@sparkuri when all the leaves are out you will be able to tell how much you have...I would guess some of the leaves on the ground and the soil will have some amounts of the oil in them/it...it takes many years to break down.

We have Ivy that climbs to treetops and the poison oak bushes that grow to small tree/bushes...I have learned the hard way many many times. Have had it on my dick and it got 3 times normal width(still was a micropenis tho)

Gotta have a routine for clothing and skin anytime you deal with it. as @Hauler said

Some people don't get it, but most do...if you don't get it bad and you break your skin, you will become more vulnerable from then on(at least I did)

I have donated/tossed tools before because the risk wasn't worth it

This is a nightmare.
I was going to clear a forest floor to ammend clay soil for a small farm.
The impression I'm getting is that I cannot, because the forest floor is covered and may permeate the amended crop soil.

Thoughts?

 

[sparkuri]

Yep
Don't fuck with Urushiol

@sparkuri when all the leaves are out you will be able to tell how much you have...I would guess some of the leaves on the ground and the soil will have some amounts of the oil in them/it...it takes many years to break down.

We have Ivy that climbs to treetops and the poison oak bushes that grow to small tree/bushes...I have learned the hard way many many times. Have had it on my dick and it got 3 times normal width(still was a micropenis tho)

Gotta have a routine for clothing and skin anytime you deal with it. as @Hauler said

Some people don't get it, but most do...if you don't get it bad and you break your skin, you will become more vulnerable from then on(at least I did)

I have donated/tossed tools before because the risk wasn't worth it

Whew.
Mighty good summary here.

What Is Urushiol Oil: Learn About Urushiol Plant Allergies

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www.gardeningknowhow.com

I was picking at it about a month ago, then after the reaction my inner hypochondriac manifested, but I was fine.
I'm aware now there are a variety of reactions possible, and will now weaponize my investment.

 

[Hauler]

This is a nightmare.
I was going to clear a forest floor to ammend clay soil for a small farm.
The impression I'm getting is that I cannot, because the forest floor is covered and may permeate the amended crop soil.

Thoughts?

I'd need a picture of what you are dealing with.

If it's groundcover, I'd just spray it with roundup. It should wilt away to nothing in about a week. Then just gather up the remnant roots/vines (long sleeves, gloves) and chuck it somewhere you never go - or put it in garbage bags.

Immediately wash clothes and take a shower.

 

[Rambo John J]

This is a nightmare.
I was going to clear a forest floor to ammend clay soil for a small farm.
The impression I'm getting is that I cannot, because the forest floor is covered and may permeate the amended crop soil.

Thoughts?

It is not impossible at all.
It will take some work to remove/kill off the ivy...manual removal by hand or machine...or poisoning.

Regular poison oak turns into a vine down here so I'm not sure I am actually seeing the real "poison ivy"...down here poison oak likes the poor soils.

I say wait until spring has sprung to assess how much is there and make a gameplan...there are to ton of ways to kill/remove it...I read the oils take 5 years to break down, but I'm not sure of that timeframe and it likely varies depending on climate/etc...

See if you can find a local or somebody who has had success doing removal/eradication...that is where I would start...even asking questions at a store or something.

 

[Rambo John J]

And just FYI, if getting in to this is something you're concerned with, they make a soap product that breaks the oils down. The people that I know that get it bad use it regularly and swear by it. If you're ever planning on cutting it down, or digging up the roots, this would be a good idea. Just wash with this stuff ASAP when your done working in it.

Tecnu
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have had mixed results with it, some swear by it

Dawn dish soap does a good job as well with clothing, but don't put much of it on your skin

Zanfel is a cream that you put on a newly formed rash, and it can be effective at cutting the healing time to around a week

 

[Hauler]

It's an oil. Treat it as such.
Soap and water. Lather up.
Rinse. Repeat.

 

[Rambo John J]

LOL

Just a rope and a couple handsaws.
Not worth it to clean em up

I just bought new ones

Nowadays I only touch the stuff with heavy equipment, I have lost probably half a years worth of good sleep over those rashes

 

[Rambo John J]

It's an oil. Treat it as such.
Soap and water. Lather up.
Rinse. Repeat.

100% true

If I get to it quickly it I don't get the rash

It is the days that you don't shower or clean off the oils that you will feel a tingle 10 hours later or so

It is indeed just an invisible oil that needs to be dealt with

 

[sparkuri]

I'd need a picture of what you are dealing with.

View: https://youtu.be/oUKCF4tlDAQ

 

[Hauler]

View: https://youtu.be/oUKCF4tlDAQ

That's a nice piece of property, bro.
I wouldn't get too bothered with all the pine branches. Get you a quad and tow them to a centralized pile. Throw a tarp over it. Ater a good rain light it on fire.

Love the pond. Stocked?

Didn't see any PI.

 

[Rambo John J]

View: https://youtu.be/oUKCF4tlDAQ

I'm jealous

Looks amazing, some areas will be a lot of work and other spots look perfect...depending on how you want to manage it. Some of those debris piles could be burned

Always wanted a pond. If that one isn't on your property you can dig your own, I did one once. Run your own fish and crayfish operation...not sure of your climate there.

If you want more or different trees in the open areas or wherever, do so sooner rather than later of course. I used to run native tree planting crews and some of those are now like 40+ feet, pretty cool.

You probably have PI in areas and likely none in other areas based on the variety of the land you showed in that video.

Enjoy

 

[sparkuri]

That's a nice piece of property, bro.
I wouldn't get too bothered with all the pine branches. Get you a quad and tow them to a centralized pile. Throw a tarp over it. Ater a good rain light it on fire.

Love the pond. Stocked?

Didn't see any PI.

It was stalked with catfish, something happened and the pond drained and they had hundreds of catfish flopping around apparently.
I would have to stock it and soon, but that is another concern of mine.
I have no details about the pond other than on the opposite side the ground was a little mucky and I don't want to be liable for Flooding a neighbor

 

[sparkuri]

I wouldn't get too bothered with all the pine branches. Get you a quad and tow them to a centralized pile.

It had nothing to do with clearing on my part.
When it was advertised it had about 50% more cedar; I imagine momma's son thought he'd recover the 35k I just hardballed his mom off the property cost by timbering the cedar crop.
Anything 8" or larger was ghandi.
I set an addendum for no more clearing for final walk-through, & my agent took $1000 off his commission as momma wouldn't budge & I was heated about it.

 

[Hauler]

It had nothing to do with clearing on my part.
When it was advertised it had about 50% more cedar; I imagine momma's son thought he'd recover the 35k I just hardballed his mom off the property cost by timbering the cedar crop.
Anything 8" or larger was ghandi.
I set an addendum for no more clearing for final walk-through, & my agent took $1000 off his commission as momma wouldn't budge & I was heated about it.

Yeah. Lots of fresh cut timber for sure. That sucks.

 

[member 3289]

The red-headed morph is fairly common in female brown anoles (Anolis sagrei) in Florida but is very rarely seen in males.

Caught this guy to show my nieces and assumed it was a female. Then extended its dewlap (throat fan) and found out it was a juvenile male: