I’m confused. Are you saying that Florida didn’t have a surging COVID problem where they tried to cook the numbers to make it look like they didn’t? Florida per 100,000 had the highest rate of mortality from COVID, while cooking the numbers.
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You got evidence they cooked the numbers. Florida with i believe the 2nd oldest population death adjusted for age groups did better than california. But there's a whooooole lot more there i listed. And i live in NY where it was legally shown covid numbers were under reported in the range of 10-15000.
U.S. COVID death rate by state 2023 | Statista
As of March 2023, Arizona had the highest COVID death rate in the U.S., with 455 deaths per 100,000 population. Hawaii had the lowest death rate.
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Here’s an article talking about it. Florida reported ‘artificial decline’ in COVID-19 deaths as cases were surgingYou got evidence they cooked the numbers. Florida with i believe the 2nd oldest population death adjusted for age groups did better than california. But there's a whooooole lot more there i listed. And i live in NY where it was legally shown covid numbers were under reported in the range of 10-15000.
U.S. COVID death rate by state 2023 | Statista
As of March 2023, Arizona had the highest COVID death rate in the U.S., with 455 deaths per 100,000 population. Hawaii had the lowest death rate.
and here’s some data showing deaths per 100,000 States ranked by COVID-19 death rates
Soo the change of death from certificate to actual death date ( which several states did) showed a slight decline for a brief moment. But all deaths are accounted for and and this point it time it’s evened out.
and now we play who has the better links for death per 100k. Care to address any of the other claims I listed. This is one of many ways the cdc was off base.
what other claims? The one about New York? It’s very clear that New York fucked up heavily with COVID. That’s not some big revelation. 62.3 deaths per 100,000 in Florida, and that’s while undercounting. And if you want to bring California into it, their population is far greater than Florida. They still didn’t have as high of a mortality rate(while still having a high mortality rate) as Florida.
@Kingtony87 lets just agree that we aren’t going to see this the same, and move on. We need to worry about the Monkey Pox now! COVID arguments are so 2020.
"mixed up"
haha
"Monkey pox" was first "discovered" in in research monkeys. AKA......
What I am getting at, and find interesting is that MonkeyPox wasn't first observed in the wild, it was observed in research monkeys that humans were funking with.
"Monkeypox was discovered in 1958 when two outbreaks of a pox-like disease occurred in colonies of monkeys kept for research. Despite being named “monkeypox,” the source of the disease remains unknown."
From CDC^^
You’re gonna be a waiting a while. I dont have the energy to go back and forth anymore on this stuff. Nothing I post is going to sway your opinions, and vice-versa. Hopefully the lies and corruption are eventually exposed for the world to see.I’m still waiting for@Wild to answer this question…
There, this is pretty good
I don’t think he’s trying to sway opinion. He’s trying to find out who you would in place instead? So if you feel like no opinions are going to be swayed from either person what’s the point? Just to click bait and get into arguments?
Hiding data on masking kids in schools, cherry picking a “study” of 282 to claim natural immunity was less effective than the vaccine. Ignoring data from the UK and Israel. But yea let’s focus on Florida.
Disband is probably too big of a reach. I would definitely replace a lot of the people at the top. Their messaging is horrible, their contradictions are plentiful and the public's trust in the organization is waning.Follow up question for
would you disband the CDC if you had the power, and if you could, what would you put in place?
Not a group you want to be looked at with skepticism by the public, but that's where we are.
Didn’t know I was on trial here Lars.
Nobody is undercounting anything when it comes to Covid.
If you die WITH Covid, you died OF Covid.
Even though COVID was a contributing factor?
I'm not convinced that's happening. I believe it's being assumed.
Individuals don't have a control group, so if Bob was going to die of a heart attack anyway but he happened to die of a heart attack while he had a mild case of Covid - that likely goes down as a Covid death.
How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated
As the U.S. death toll nears a half-million, confusion continues over whether people die “of” COVID-19 or “with” COVID-19. Here’s what’s behind the numbers.
It's an interesting topic though.
Say a 400 lb beast who inhales twinkies and soda all day every day dies of *insert cause here* that was made worse by her getting Covid
Would she have died that day if she didn't have Covid? Maybe not.
Would she have died if she wasn't a ticking time bomb fueled by high blood pressure and obesity despite getting Covid? Maybe not.
So what truly caused her death?
Would bob have had a heart attack if he didn’t have COVID?I'm not convinced that's happening. I believe it's being assumed.
Individuals don't have a control group, so if Bob was going to die of a heart attack anyway but he happened to die of a heart attack while he had a mild case of Covid - that likely goes down as a Covid death.
How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated
As the U.S. death toll nears a half-million, confusion continues over whether people die “of” COVID-19 or “with” COVID-19. Here’s what’s behind the numbers.www.aamc.org
She was definitely a ticking time bomb. But COVID is what sent that fat bitch over the edge.
Yes. Eventually.
Comorbidity is certainly a thing, but I think those deaths should be counted separately from the folks who were perfectly healthy before they died of Covid.
In a society where it's almost like we're celebrating fatties - I think we missed a good opportunity to say "Fat shaming is bad, but it's definitely better to be healthy"
But I don't think she should be counted the same as a chick who is at a healthy weight and exercises - but then died of Covid.
Do we know the covid deaths that had comorbidities? Honest question as I don't know.