British brothers and sisters, y'all wearing poppies or nah?

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Are you wearing a poppy?

  • Yes. God save the Queen!

    Votes: 9 37.5%
  • No. Ain't nobody got time for that.

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Are you aving a laugh?

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • U Wot M8?

    Votes: 11 45.8%

  • Total voters
    24

ThatOneDude

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Oh shit, look it's a CCTV system that doesn't have timestamps..... Holy shit
 

Chief

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I just invented a new kind of poppy. What do you think?

I would wear one of these no problem

Throw in some stars n stripes, a union jack, and a maple leaf and I think you're on to something.
 

SAJ

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Aug 2, 2015
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I will try and debunk every point made against me.

First the offical airport footage that was released had the timestamp removed. This would not hold up in a court of law as there's no proof when the footage was shot.

There are simply no witnesses who can state that any hijackers actually boarded any planes. No ticket takers, no security personnel, no one. In fact, there is no one who makes a credible claim to have seen any of them at boarding gates or security checkpoints either – even though the 9/11 Commission Report states (p.451) that 10 of the 19 were selected by an automated system for additional security screening. And the collection of knives and box cutters that they allegedly used to take over the planes were somehow not detected either by electronic screening or through individual searching

Moving on to Mohammed Atta. He along with 3 others are still reported to be alive.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRDEu27c9sQ


His father said he received a call from his son the day after 9/11

BBC reporting hijackers still alive


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgjzYYXjqw



Now ThatOneDude @ThatOneDude. I've had him ignored for the last two weeks. Now and again I click "show ignore content" and see him screaming at me.

He claims I am "Ignoring scientific evidence" Lmao its one scientific theory that came out in 2007 and has been debunked by
Dr. Crockett Grabbe who has a PhD in Applied Physics from and having received Bachelor of Science with Highest Honors and Master's degrees. He explains the flaws in Keith seffens theory.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtcmYAJVims


NIST has a similar theory to Keit seffens. They support the idea of "progressive collapse" FEMA claims that this very well might be true but the possibilities are low.



What about science that supports the 9/11 truth? Like Thermite and Nano- thermite found at ground Zero.

Scientists Confirm Explosives Used to Demolish Towers on 9/11

How come no one gave me a rebutall as to why WTC7 lobby was blown to pieces before the collapse?!? I posted the video of the reporter saying it looks like a warzone. There was no fire in the lobby? Shall I post the video again?

As for ThatOneDude @ThatOneDude You don't have your own brain. Too lazy to do any of your own research. Just agree with anyone that disagrees with me. At least people here are thinking for themselves and not relying on others to back them up
 

ThatOneDude

Commander in @Chief, Dick Army
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Jan 14, 2015
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I will try and debunk every point made against me.

First the offical airport footage that was released had the timestamp removed. This would not hold up in a court of law as there's no proof when the footage was shot.

There are simply no witnesses who can state that any hijackers actually boarded any planes. No ticket takers, no security personnel, no one. In fact, there is no one who makes a credible claim to have seen any of them at boarding gates or security checkpoints either – even though the 9/11 Commission Report states (p.451) that 10 of the 19 were selected by an automated system for additional security screening. And the collection of knives and box cutters that they allegedly used to take over the planes were somehow not detected either by electronic screening or through individual searching

Moving on to Mohammed Atta. He along with 3 others are still reported to be alive.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRDEu27c9sQ


His father said he received a call from his son the day after 9/11

BBC reporting hijackers still alive


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgjzYYXjqw



Now ThatOneDude @ThatOneDude. I've had him ignored for the last two weeks. Now and again I click "show ignore content" and see him screaming at me.

He claims I am "Ignoring scientific evidence" Lmao its one scientific theory that came out in 2007 and has been debunked by
Dr. Crockett Grabbe who has a PhD in Applied Physics from and having received Bachelor of Science with Highest Honors and Master's degrees. He explains the flaws in Keith seffens theory.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtcmYAJVims


NIST has a similar theory to Keit seffens. They support the idea of "progressive collapse" FEMA claims that this very well might be true but the possibilities are low.



What about science that supports the 9/11 truth? Like Thermite and Nano- thermite found at ground Zero.

Scientists Confirm Explosives Used to Demolish Towers on 9/11

How come no one gave me a rebutall as to why WTC7 lobby was blown to pieces before the collapse?!? I posted the video of the reporter saying it looks like a warzone. There was no fire in the lobby? Shall I post the video again?

As for ThatOneDude @ThatOneDude You don't have your own brain. Too lazy to do any of your own research. Just agree with anyone that disagrees with me. At least people here are thinking for themselves and not relying on others to back them up
Listen, boy, I've read both sides of the debate. I've watched loose change and the 5 hour one that was posted here a few months ago. Of ANYONE in this thread the people who actually lost friends and family have the most to be upset about, people like me. I went through a long time where I was pissed because of what happened after 9/11. Having looked at both sides of the story I think the towers came down because 2 fucking full loaded planes flew into them at high speeds, I think the situation was handled in an extremely fucked up way and showed how lax we had become as a nation when it came to our defenses, and I think some shitty people took advantage of a situation that presented itself. I'm sorry that I am able to look at both sides and form my own decision. And as for putting me on ignore, I'm sorry I offended your child fucking prophet, and that I didn't get to wipe out more of them in Iraq. Now sit the fuck down.
 

canofsticks

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Aug 4, 2015
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Listen, boy, I've read both sides of the debate. I've watched loose change and the 5 hour one that was posted here a few months ago. Of ANYONE in this thread the people who actually lost friends and family have the most to be upset about, people like me. I went through a long time where I was pissed because of what happened after 9/11. Having looked at both sides of the story I think the towers came down because 2 fucking full loaded planes flew into them at high speeds, I think the situation was handled in an extremely fucked up way and showed how lax we had become as a nation when it came to our defenses, and I think some shitty people took advantage of a situation that presented itself. I'm sorry that I am able to look at both sides and form my own decision. And as for putting me on ignore, I'm sorry I offended your child fucking prophet, and that I didn't get to wipe out more of them in Iraq. Now sit the fuck down.
 
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Always sad to see people start quarreling about this stuff. It degenerates the collective truth-seeking momentum so quickly...

We are all trying to bring clarity to the human condition, all supposedly working together to understand and find truth, and NONE of us can/should claim to have figured everything out.

We should support each other's efforts and listen to opposing views with open ears and comradery. If you don't agree, keep it civil, and recognize when the debate becomes futile. Maybe the other person is right about some things, maybe we have become guilty of some confirmation bias, etc.

I know many people that escaped the UG because these discussions crumble into personal battles, maybe we can be more mature/civil here and realize we're all on the same side.
 

SAJ

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Aug 2, 2015
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Im not going to get into a pissing contest with him. He's already shown his true colours.

I countered all his points with my own and he couldn't respond back in a civil manner without the schoolboy insults

It sucks that he had lost family/friends on 9/11 that doesn't mean it wasn't an inside job though.

I'm not going to back and fourth with anyone else now on this topic. People get too emotional and personal

Yes I did take a slight jab at him at the end. I admit that. It was after I countered his points though. I didn't just dimiss them and start insulting him.

So yeah Im done with this thread now
 

Leigh

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You can't judge all Muslims by the actions of some.
 
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Leigh

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Sure I can, and with this particular issue, I have no problem with being labeled a closed minded asshole
I considered my wording after I posted. OK, let me rephrase:

You CAN judge all Muslims by the actions of some but you're wrong. Further, I have no issue with you criticising Islam but I'll delete hateful stuff about Muslims in general.
 

ThatOneDude

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I considered my wording after I posted. OK, let me rephrase:

You CAN judge all Muslims by the actions of some but you're wrong. Further, I have no issue with you criticising Islam but I'll delete hateful stuff about Muslims in general.
And Leigh @Leigh that is your write to disagree with me on that. And that's fine to delete that stuff as well if you see fit.
But I'll say, from my perspective and through my personal life experiences that form that perspective, I think your position on it is a bit naive.
 

Leigh

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And Leigh @Leigh that is your write to disagree with me on that. And that's fine to delete that stuff as well if you see fit.
But I'll say, from my perspective and through my personal life experiences that form that perspective, I think your position on it is a bit naive.
You're entitled to your opinion. I have travelled a lot and lived a colourful life. I have Muslim friends that hate the extremists. Just because you've seen Muslims do some awful stuff, doesn't mean all Muslims are tarred with the same brush.

Some Americans have done atrocious things but I wouldn't judge all Americans.
 

ThatOneDude

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You're entitled to your opinion. I have travelled a lot and lived a colourful life. I have Muslim friends that hate the extremists. Just because you've seen Muslims do some awful stuff, doesn't mean all Muslims are tarred with the same brush.

Some Americans have done atrocious things but I wouldn't judge all Americans.
You are 100%, but my opinion still stands. I've known plenty of Muslims outside of combat zones. If it's in a professional environment I deal with them in a professional manner but there is zero small talk or outside interaction. If it's outside of work I don't acknowledge them. I don't trust them farther than I can throw them.
 

Team Bisping

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You are 100%, but my opinion still stands. I've known plenty of Muslims outside of combat zones. If it's in a professional environment I deal with them in a professional manner but there is zero small talk or outside interaction. If it's outside of work I don't acknowledge them. I don't trust them farther than I can throw them.

Dayum guys, I saw i've read this debate over a millions times on this place haha