it doesnt seem to be an issue to not speak english in vancouver.they even do the evening news in mandrin cantonese and hindi
British brothers and sisters, y'all wearing poppies or nah?
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it doesnt seem to be an issue to not speak english in vancouver.they even do the evening news in mandrin cantonese and hindi
I never said most Muslim immigrants weren't fine. I said IF they can't assimilate, they shouldn't come. I never said all Muslims cannot assimilate, and therefore shouldn't come.
As far as the majority of Muslim problems being from native citizens, that may be true wherever you are from, but it's not true in Canada.
"There are a lot of Chinese people who are critical of the Canadian system"
Tell them to go back to their Communist country. China executes more citizens than the rest of the world combined. And they don't like the Canadian system, SMH
If I understand you correctly, you're saying its OK for Chinese people who don't speak English to move to Canada but it's not OK for Muslims who don't assimilate with Canadian culture.
it doesnt seem to be an issue to not speak english in vancouver.they even do the evening news in mandrin cantonese and hindi
Yes I have read the Bible in its entirety and the Koran. I went to Catholic high school and had classes on world religions and catholism daily. Went through all the sacraments and Sunday school till I moved out. Yes the old testament was disgusting as well, and the basis for all Aramaic religions. The koran and muslims are still stuck in caveman times. As gross as other organized religions are, islam has to be the most perverted religion in modern times.
As I said, they were born in Canada.
Then they should leave Canada and go to a part of the world that has the same set of values as what they want. We aren't land locked in today's day and age, the world is open.
Lucky for them.
As I've said previously, some Muslims are very nice. Many Christians in Africa are at least as savage as Muslims in the Middle East. We've had more terrorist acts by Christians in the UK than we have by Muslims.
And those people should be dealt with as well. You won't see me defending them.
A world without religion would be a beautiful thing. Imagine if we were all nice to each other because we were people, instead of having religion dividing us into teams. Or being a good person because you want to be, not because you are afraid some child molester won't let you into his make believe kingdom.
If you need an imaginary friend to tell you to do the right thing, you're probably an asshole.
But you'll say that Muslims are worse for committing the same offences.
So if you dislike any laws or regulations in your country, you shouldn't speak out about it and you should leave the country instead. I don't think you've thought this through and you're arguing with emotion rather than logic.
Yes I will, because their religion preaches violence in modern times. Atleast Christianity has the new testament which is all about love, for the most part. But believe me anyone who kills in the name of 'god' isn't needed on this earth.
Yes, if your values don't match up with the society you are in, you should leave for one that does.
A Muslim that kills a child is worse than a Christian that kills a child? No way, both are equally scum.
Yup, none of them are good though.
Agreed
So you fully trust the US government and there are no laws you disagree with. You agree with freedom of religion and Muslims are allowed to spread their religion and cannot legally be discriminated against. Cool.
The US is far from perfect, but it's the closest society that fits my set of values. Should that change I have no problem moving to some place that does fit with my personal value system. Shit I left where I grew up because I did not agree with the way the state was being run. So I found one that more closely fit my value set. So I don't see the issue.
You're continually contradicting yourself.
Canadians cannot voice disagreement with their government policies, yet you disagree with some of your government's policies.
Muslims are worse than Christians for the same crime but if they commit a child murder, you agree that they're both equally scum.
Ok let me clarify this for you brb
How am I contradicting myself? By saying that if someone cant assimilate to the broad cultural norms of that society then they should seek out one that does fit with their value system. Example, I grew up in Connecticut, I dont agree with the high taxes, I don't agree with the left leaning politicians of that state, I don't agree with their guns laws, etc etc etc. So as someone who was born in Connecticut, I said 'welp clearly the broad societal values of Connecticut doesn't match up with my value system, time to find some place that does'....so I moved. If someone is coming from another country, and wants their new home to fit their value's then maybe they made a wrong choice and they should seek out a place where their personal values match up with the broad societal norms.
I believe that the muslim religion, as a whole, is worse than christianity yes. That does not mean I dont believe christianity isn't fucked as well, but if I am ranking them in order of fucked uppedness than yes, of the major religions I believe Islam is the worst. I also believe that if you kill children or use children as weapons then you are evil no matter if you are chsitian, muslim, athiest, agnostic, etc. Being a piece of shit isnt mutually exclusive to those who practice the islamic religion. Those christians in Africa killing people, or the IRA in the UK are no better than anyone else doing the same things world wide.
Yes, I am very very aware I am painting in broad strokes.
You are contradicting yourself in the following ways:
I said that Canadian born Chinese people disgreed with a statement by their government. You said they should leave. Yet you disagree with things about the US government but you won't leave. If you disagree with government policies, you either leave or you don't. You're suggesting both.
You said that if a Muslim and a Christian commit the same crime, a Muslim is worse. You then agreed that a Christian child killer and a Muslim child killer are equally scum and now you're saying that Christians in Africa committing barbaric acts and the Christian terrorists in the UK are no better than anyone else. Either they are equal or they are not. You've said both.
I won't leave the US because I haven't found another country that fits my beliefs better, so I moved within the country, because it's larger than most, and found a place I agree with more. No place is 100% perfect nor will it ever be.
No maybe I'm not relaying what I believe correctly. Both are equally pieces of shit for killing children and innocents. But, the Islamic religion is more violent as a whole than Christianity. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but can you show me where the Christian Bible states that if people don't convert then they should be killed?
I wan't trying to make it nationalistic, I was referring to the fact that 'lest we forget' is quite ironic considering that the same kind of horror is happening RIGHT NOW, likely with your tax dollars. What did they say; 'Never again'?? lol
If the message was lost and you saw it as nationalism I can see that though. Political art needs to be clear for sure
I agree, I have many times discussed with people of how awesome Canada is in this regard. Maybe not so much in the smaller rural towns, but Greater Toronto for example is perhaps the most multicultural place on Earth, and NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. You hear languages from all over the world, everyone is represented. You can find restaurants and churches of all different cultures, you go to the parks and families of all ethnicities are all enjoying side by side, its quite wonderful. No one cares, its like not even an issue. My kids are growing up almost blind to such differences, they grew up seeing it.
This is also the same comment I get from people who come to visit from other countries (my wife is Brasilian) - they are always impressed with it.
Its a very interesting question why this is so, when Europe for example seems to be so resisting of it/threatened by it, and the 'melting pot' concept in the US still seems to breed so much tension. What is different about Canada in this regard? I still have not really fond a conclusive answer.
Maybe because Canada is relatively so much younger; there is not as strong/deep of a culture to be 'threatened'. I don't know
I'm happy for it though, racial tensions must suck