From June 2021, six months into the year
The United States has yet to see a lightning fatality this year, a record to date
The United States has yet to see a lightning fatality this year, a record to date
General 14 students, 1 teacher dead following mass school shooting in Texas
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so there were fewer fatalities per mass shooting event during the AWB?
that's not how statistical probability works...
Are you working with the probability of a child getting struck by lightning?
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omg ban lightning!!Lightening deaths in the US 2020: 17
Gun related deaths in the US 2020 excluding suicide: ~20.930
Are you taking into account that most lightning strikes occur outside?
Are you taking into account that 85% of lightning strikes are men?
Are you considering that over a third of lightning strikes occur on a farm?
You know, things like that?
Are you taking into account that 85% of lightning strikes are men?
Are you considering that over a third of lightning strikes occur on a farm?
You know, things like that?
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Is this "simping"? It seems like simping.
define assault weapon.
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lol, no it’s me making fun of
@Filthy and calling him a pussy!
It was an honest question. I don't use Reddit so I'm not familiar with these terms you're fishing out of the fringe depths.lol, no it’s me making fun of
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i only simp for israel!!
*Laughs in Ukrainian*
because a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the people's ability to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
If you're at the controls of the largest mass-killing machine in the history of humanity, you don't get to ask why other humans have the right to less frequent magazine changes.
A well regulated militia.. how is the defined?
"Hundreds of bullets in minutes"
Switzerland is a good model.
What is the point of this post?
These weapons don't fire hundreds of rounds in minutes?
Mass killers haven't fired hundreds of rounds during their short-lived rampages?
No, the point of this post is that Joe Biden said something about gun control. And therefore you feel compelled to reflexively dismiss and mock whatever he said no matter what, because he's a Dem.
Exactly as every single other right wing shill does.
That sort of mindless shit, day in and day out, repeated in exactly the same way for every single political wedge issue, is exactly what makes you a shill. ?
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Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings
Here's what the US can learn from Switzerland, which has nearly eliminated mass shootings while maintaining a high rate of gun ownership.www.businessinsider.com
Even the NRA points at Switzerland, like you did, As an example of high gun ownership, low crime. And yet when looking at the details here we are again. Increase training. increase permitting. Psychological evaluation even for certain permits. Tons of guns. Safe use. We should do the same.
Firearms regulation in Switzerland - Wikipedia
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Permits based on weapon type...
Buying guns[edit]
In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm). Swiss citizens and foreigners with a C permit over the age of 18 who are not under a curator nor identified as being a danger for themselves or others, and who do not have a criminal record with a conviction for a violent crime or of several convictions as long as they haven't been written out can request such a permit. Foreign nationals who do not have a settlement permit but who are resident in Switzerland must present the competent cantonal authority with an official attestation from their home country confirming they are authorised to acquire the weapon or essential weapon component in that country in order to buy (art. 9a WG/LArm). Foreigners with citizenship to the following countries are explicitly excluded from the right to buy, sell and own weapons and their parts unless they ask for an exceptional authorization to the state: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.[note 1] The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:
Categories[edit]
No acquisition permit needed[edit]
The following weapons can be acquired without acquisition permits (art. 10 WG/LArm):
The following weapons can be acquired with a shall-issue acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm):
The following weapons can only be acquired with a may-issue acquisition permit that can be issued for professional requirements, in particular with regard to carrying out protection duties, such as protecting persons, critical infrastructure or the transport of valuables; target shooting by shooting clubs; collecting; National defence requirements; Educational, cultural, research or historical purposes (art. 28c WG/LArm):
The following weapons from the generally prohibited category can be bought with a shall-issue exceptional permit for sport shooter; proof of regular use or membership of a club needs to be provided after 5 and 10 years. This verification is to be done only for the first weapon purchased with that kind of permit (art. 28d WG/LArm & art. 13c WV/OArm):
The following weapons from the generally prohibited category can be bought with a may-issue exceptional permit for collectors with proof that they are kept in a safe place and protected from access by unauthorised third persons (art. 28e WG/LArm):
The following weapons can be bought with a regular may-issue exceptional acquisition permit for professional requirements, use for industrial purposes, compensating for physical handicaps, or collecting (art. 28b WG/LArm):
In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm). Swiss citizens and foreigners with a C permit over the age of 18 who are not under a curator nor identified as being a danger for themselves or others, and who do not have a criminal record with a conviction for a violent crime or of several convictions as long as they haven't been written out can request such a permit. Foreign nationals who do not have a settlement permit but who are resident in Switzerland must present the competent cantonal authority with an official attestation from their home country confirming they are authorised to acquire the weapon or essential weapon component in that country in order to buy (art. 9a WG/LArm). Foreigners with citizenship to the following countries are explicitly excluded from the right to buy, sell and own weapons and their parts unless they ask for an exceptional authorization to the state: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.[note 1] The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:
- valid official identification or passport copy.
- residence address.
- criminal record copy not older than three months.
- Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who sells the weapon or essential weapon component.
- Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who purchases the weapon or an essential weapon component.
- Kind of weapon, manufacturer or producer, label, caliber, weapon number, and date and place of transfer.
- Type and number of the official identification of the person who acquires the weapon or the essential weapon component.
- and an indication of the processing of personal data in connection with the contract in accordance with the privacy policy of the Federation or the cantons, if firearms are transmitted.
Categories[edit]
No acquisition permit needed[edit]
The following weapons can be acquired without acquisition permits (art. 10 WG/LArm):
- Single-shot and multi-barreled hunting rifles and replicas of single-shot muzzle loaders.
- Hand bolt-action rifles, which are commonly used in off-duty and sporting gunnery recognized by the military law of 3 February 1952 and shooting clubs for hunting purposes in Switzerland.
- Single-shot rabbit slayer.
- Compressed air and CO2 weapons that develop a muzzle energy of at least 7.5 joules, or whose appearance may be mistaken for real firearms.
The following weapons can be acquired with a shall-issue acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm):
- the following semi-automatic centrefire weapons:
- Handguns equipped with a low-capacity loading device (20 or less)
- Small firearms equipped with a low-capacity loading device (10 or less)
- Revolvers
- Lever-action rifles
- Pump-action rifles
- Foreign service bolt-action rifles that are not authorized for shooting outside of service
- Self-loading shotgun with a capacity of 10 or less
The following weapons can only be acquired with a may-issue acquisition permit that can be issued for professional requirements, in particular with regard to carrying out protection duties, such as protecting persons, critical infrastructure or the transport of valuables; target shooting by shooting clubs; collecting; National defence requirements; Educational, cultural, research or historical purposes (art. 28c WG/LArm):
- Automatic firearms and military launching devices for ammunition, for projectiles or for missiles that have an explosive effect, and their essential or specially designed components.
- Automatic firearms modified to semi-automatic firearms, and their essential components; the foregoing does not apply to Swiss army firearms the ownership of which is acquired by the holder directly from the military authorities, and to components essential for maintaining the functionality of such weapons
- the following semi-automatic centrefire weapons:
- Handguns equipped with a high-capacity loading device (21 or more)
- Small firearms equipped with a high-capacity loading device (11 or more)
- Semi-automatic small firearms that may be shortened by means of a folding or telescopic shaft or without auxiliary means to a length of less than 60 cm, without losing any functionality
- Firearms that resemble an article of everyday use and their essential components;
- Grenade launchers in accordance with Article 4 paragraph 2 letter c
The following weapons from the generally prohibited category can be bought with a shall-issue exceptional permit for sport shooter; proof of regular use or membership of a club needs to be provided after 5 and 10 years. This verification is to be done only for the first weapon purchased with that kind of permit (art. 28d WG/LArm & art. 13c WV/OArm):
- Automatic firearms modified to semi-automatic firearms, and their essential components; the foregoing does not apply to Swiss army firearms the ownership of which is acquired by the holder directly from the military authorities, and to components essential for maintaining the functionality of such weapons
- the following semi-automatic centrefire weapons:
- Handguns equipped with a high-capacity loading device (21 or more)
- Small firearms equipped with a high-capacity loading device (11 or more)
The following weapons from the generally prohibited category can be bought with a may-issue exceptional permit for collectors with proof that they are kept in a safe place and protected from access by unauthorised third persons (art. 28e WG/LArm):
- Automatic firearms and military launching devices for ammunition, for projectiles or for missiles that have an explosive effect, and their essential or specially designed components.
- Automatic firearms modified to semi-automatic firearms, and their essential components; the foregoing does not apply to Swiss army firearms the ownership of which is acquired by the holder directly from the military authorities, and to components essential for maintaining the functionality of such weapons
- the following semi-automatic centrefire weapons:
- Handguns equipped with a high-capacity loading device (21 or more)
- Small firearms equipped with a high-capacity loading device (11 or more)
- Semi-automatic small firearms that may be shortened by means of a folding or telescopic shaft or without auxiliary means to a length of less than 60 cm, without losing any functionality
The following weapons can be bought with a regular may-issue exceptional acquisition permit for professional requirements, use for industrial purposes, compensating for physical handicaps, or collecting (art. 28b WG/LArm):
- Knives and daggers in accordance with Article 4 paragraph 1 letter c;
- Striking and throwing devices in accordance with Article 4 paragraph 1 letter d, with the exception of batons;
- Electrical shock devices in accordance with Article 4 paragraph 1 letter e;
- Weapon accessories in accordance with Article 4 paragraph 2.
Carrying a gun publicly requires permitting and training and is very selective
Carrying guns[edit]
To carry a firearm in public or outdoors (and for a militia member to carry a firearm other than his issued weapons while off-duty), a person must have a gun carrying permit (German: Waffentragbewilligung, French: permis de port d'armes, Italian: permesso di porto di armi; art. 27 WG/LArm), which in most cases is issued only to private citizens working in occupations such as security.[7] It is, however, quite common to see a person in military service or a sport shooter to be en route with his rifle, albeit unloaded. The issue of such exceptional permits are extremely selective (see #Conditions_for_obtaining_a_Carrying_Permit).
However, it is permissible to carry firearms in public or outdoors if the holder (art. 27 § 4 WG/LArm):
Conditions for obtaining a Carrying Permit[edit]
There are three conditions (art. 27 § 2 WG/LArm):
However, a person who wants to renew his or her firearms license does not need to retake the practical test if the test was passed less than three years ago. They do not need to retake the theory test on the same condition, provided that the legal provisions have not been significantly changed and that there is no doubt that they have sufficient knowledge of the legal conditions for using a weapon. (art. 48 § 4 WV/OArm)
To carry a firearm in public or outdoors (and for a militia member to carry a firearm other than his issued weapons while off-duty), a person must have a gun carrying permit (German: Waffentragbewilligung, French: permis de port d'armes, Italian: permesso di porto di armi; art. 27 WG/LArm), which in most cases is issued only to private citizens working in occupations such as security.[7] It is, however, quite common to see a person in military service or a sport shooter to be en route with his rifle, albeit unloaded. The issue of such exceptional permits are extremely selective (see #Conditions_for_obtaining_a_Carrying_Permit).
However, it is permissible to carry firearms in public or outdoors if the holder (art. 27 § 4 WG/LArm):
- Has a valid hunting license and is carrying the firearm for hunting.
- Is participating in a demonstration and is carrying the firearm in reference to a historical event.
- Is participating in a shooting competition for air-soft guns, provided that the competition has a secure perimeter.
- Is an airport security officer for an authorized country, a border patrol officer, or a game warden, who is carrying the firearm in the course of their employment.
Conditions for obtaining a Carrying Permit[edit]
There are three conditions (art. 27 § 2 WG/LArm):
- fulfilling the conditions for a buying permit (see section above).
- stating plausibly the need to carry firearms to protect oneself, other people, or real property from a specified danger.
- passing an examination proving both weapon handling skills and knowledge regarding lawful use of the weapon.
However, a person who wants to renew his or her firearms license does not need to retake the practical test if the test was passed less than three years ago. They do not need to retake the theory test on the same condition, provided that the legal provisions have not been significantly changed and that there is no doubt that they have sufficient knowledge of the legal conditions for using a weapon. (art. 48 § 4 WV/OArm)
First, of all, I think the article you are quoting used the numbers of a person, any person not just children getting struck by lightning vs getting shot in a school (which of course is mostly children).
Secondly, 90% of people struck by lightning survive.
Third, I couldn’t find any incident of a student struck by lightning while at school.
So.....
Only 2 people under the age of 20 died from lightning in 2020.
From 2006 - 2019, only 10 kids aged 10 and under died from lightning. In 13 years there were 10.
So while your statistical probability skills may be on point the choice of comparisons suck.