Society Car plows into antifa during white nationalist protest of statue being removed

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stielar

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Copying comment from some guy on RT comments section

"This is what I have been waiting for-for so long. Finally the chaos chickens Americans have been spreading around the world for decades have come home to roost. I hope its as bloody and as messy as what they did in Iraq and Libya..."

Although it might seem like this is just bad karma for the us, I doubt these groups of antifa / white supremacists act on their own. This conflict that is brewing has a hidden long term goal. Wouldn't be suprised if the whole car ramming people and helicopter shot down was some false flag operation for follow-up actions to be justified.
 

jason73

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The far left is just as guilty as the far right these days .they are both fuckin idiots of the highest order and both causing all the problems and violence at these rallys and protests.the only differenxe is the far right takes 90% of the blame while antifa and the black bloc commies barely get mentioned by the media
 

Freeloading Rusty

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So is this considered a terrorist attack?

(Making assumptions from what we currently know)

* the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.
 

Zeph

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Why do people believe violence in the name of taking someone's rights away, and violence against the people that want to take people's rights away are equal and the same? You motherfuckers watch too much West Wing nonsense.
 

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Why do people believe violence in the name of taking someone's rights away, and violence against the people that want to take people's rights away are equal and the same? You motherfuckers watch too much West Wing nonsense.
Violence is violence.just because you feel righteous about it does not make it any different
 

Zeph

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Violence is violence.just because you feel righteous about it does not make it any different
No, all violence is not same. There are legitimate uses of violence. Would you physically stop someone that was drowning a child?
 
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Why do people believe violence in the name of taking someone's rights away, and violence against the people that want to take people's rights away are equal and the same? You motherfuckers watch too much West Wing nonsense.

Because being a self professed Nazi, saying Nazi shit, wanting Nazi shit is not illegal.

But attacking them is.

We've had the free speech talk before, but thems the kicks. It's not illegal. Many of us support their right to think and say disgusting shit.

And attacking people for thought is disgusting in my world.

 

jason73

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No, all violence is not same. There are legitimate uses of violence. Would you physically stop someone that was drowning a child?
No shit.that is in no way what either of our posts are about and you know it.when 2 sides both go out in public to commit violent acts vs each other one is no better than the other .antifa smashing guys with bike licks is no different from nazis sucker punching people both are wrong.running over people with a car is alway wrong
 

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So is this considered a terrorist attack?

(Making assumptions from what we currently know)

* the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.
it depends on the intent really, even if the guy turns out to be a white nationalist that was there for the event it could still end up that he didnt plan it and just got pissed off and flipped out. but if he planned it in any way (no matter how brief) then yeah it definitely is.
 
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jason73

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I would suspect both the white nationalists and antifa are heavily infiltrated and manipulated by agent provacateurs
 

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it depends on the intent really, even if the guy turns out to be a white nationalist that was there for the event it could still end up that he didnt plan it and just got pissed off and flipped out. but if planned it in any way (no matter how brief) then yeah it definitely is.
Planning or not... using violence against innocent people to further a political agenda.
 

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Because being a self professed Nazi, saying Nazi shit, wanting Nazi shit is not illegal.

But attacking them is.

We've had the free speech talk before, but thems the kicks. It's not illegal. Many of us support their right to think and say disgusting shit.

And attacking people for thought is disgusting in my world.

I am not advocating for attacking the protestors, just saying that both sides are not equal here. One side is misguided in their use of violence, and the other are reprehensible scum. Yet, people are acting like they are just as bad as each other, which isn't the case. Tolerating intolerance is not tolerance.
 

drjones

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We've had the free speech talk before, but thems the kicks. It's not illegal. Many of us support their right to think and say disgusting shit.
absolutely, (none of this is directed at you btw) but we arent talking about what the police or courts should do here. we are discussing it on a forum, like many other people discussing it around the country. so when someone makes sort of moral equivalency between the two things, or just blatantly comes out and says "fuck them they suck anyway" (the people run over, the counter-protesters in general) then it makes sense people would call them out.

anyone talking about this event and saying "well you know both sides are at fault" is being disingenuous imo or their morals are seriously lacking.