General Alec Baldwin fired the gun that killed one and injured another in an accident set of his film "Rust."

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Filthy

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Splinty said:
Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set on Saturday said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges.
Baldwin’s stunt double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was “cold” — lingo for a weapon that doesn’t have any ammunition, including blanks — two crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.
“There should have been an investigation into what happened,” a crew member said. “There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn’t happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush.”
A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires that he sent a text message to the unit production manager. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe,” according to a copy of the message reviewed by The Times.




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I read about it elsewhere, made it sound like the discharges with the stunt double were blanks when it was supposed to be unloaded.
 
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Although the jokes are hilarious, it starts to look like Baldwin has very little culpability. At least according to that.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Pak protector said:
Although the jokes are hilarious, it starts to look like Baldwin has very little culpability. At least according to that.
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In terms of firing the weapon, probably. In terms of being a producer, on the other hand. That being said, anyone who thinks he's going to jail is kidding themselves. Of course he's at least as guilty as that YouTube girl, so maybe he should.

Ultimately it should be a lesson of humility to people who feel the need to spend all their time politically virtue signalling on social media, but somehow I doubt that will be anybody's takeaway.
 
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Why do I think her dad's company (I'm assuming she was hired through him but could be very wrong) is about to get annihilated with lawsuits and the insurance company is about to drop them?






Also, am I the only person that when they feel underprepared has a tendency to go over the top with monitoring every little imaginable detail?
 
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Filthy said:
that's not the 4th rule.

the 4 rules don't reference a firearm's "safety" because many firearms do not have a safety, and you should never ever ever trust a 'safety'.

treat every weapon as if it were loaded
know your target and what is beyond it
do not touch the trigger until you're are ready to shoot
do not point a firearm at anything you do not wish to destroy.

really, it's one rule and a 3 part definition
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i see what you're saying but it applies more to hunting

what i posted is from the military, which most weapon system they employ have a safety

most important is the 1st. treat it like it's loaded, you won't point at people or play around with it (muzzle awareness)
 
Filthy

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tang said:
i see what you're saying but it applies more to hunting

what i posted is from the military, which most weapon system they employ have a safety

most important is the 1st. treat it like it's loaded, you won't point at people or play around with it (muzzle awareness)
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that's not from the US military.


Col Jeff Cooper created the 4 Rules, it's not one of the 4 rules.
 
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there is an old saying in mexico that goes "para pendejo no se estudia"
 
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Most people, whether they realize it or not, are "pro killing spree" in some way.
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There are plenty people all over the world against the death penalty. You think they are pro killing spree? Pro revenge killings? Pro henchmen killing if they work for the wrong person?


JakePaulsBeard said:
With the Jason or Michael Myers example there are 2 things to keep in mind. 1) No one knows who plays them. 2) No one believes them to be hero of their movies. Those movies aren't glorifying murder. When you watch them you're hoping those people aren't successful.
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So you are saying all these splatter movies are being watched by people rooting for there not to be any splatter. They are hoping there won't be no murder and no blood at all. That is why they watch these films.

 
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Filthy said:
i mean...if they're on film glorifying rape and using the rape scene to pay their mortgage.

it'd be like if Max Hardcore started raising money for abused women and railing against the social ills of porn.

and then everyone saw him rape his cinematographer.
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Porn now? Meh.

How about song lyrics?
Just sing/rap what you stand for eh? Now that would be an interesting change. But it's simply not realistic and really feels like an old fart argument.
 
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There are plenty people all over the world against the death penalty. You think they are pro killing spree? Pro revenge killings? Pro henchmen killing if they work for the wrong person?



So you are saying all these splatter movies are being watched by people rooting for there not to be any splatter. They are hoping there won't be no murder and no blood at all. That is why they watch these films.

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You're showing an extreme bias in your positional defense, sir.
 
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