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Saloth Sar

Let's take a little trip to the countryside
Dec 1, 2015
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Fair dinkum









Saloth Sar @Saloth Sar am I doing that right???
I'm going to give this a more serious answer than you were anticipating. It's genuinely hard to know what is Aussie slang that people say seriously and what hipsters just say to be ironic or rich preppy cunts say to pretend they are just one of the peasants, so I don't even know any more.

Generally in my mind fair dinkum alone is far more common a rhetorical question indicating approving surprise - picture the BJ Penn nodding gif - like if somebody says 'I had sex with that Romanian chick from a few pages back, I SWEAR I'M NOT GAY' you would say 'fair dinkum?'

It's better to say 'Fair Fucken Dinkum!' It just sounds better.
 

Splinty

Shake 'em off
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Dec 31, 2014
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I'm going to give this a more serious answer than you were anticipating. It's genuinely hard to know what is Aussie slang that people say seriously and what hipsters just say to be ironic or rich preppy cunts say to pretend they are just one of the peasants, so I don't even know any more.

Generally in my mind fair dinkum alone is far more common a rhetorical question indicating approving surprise - picture the BJ Penn nodding gif - like if somebody says 'I had sex with that Romanian chick from a few pages back, I SWEAR I'M NOT GAY' you would say 'fair dinkum?'

It's better to say 'Fair Fucken Dinkum!' It just sounds better.

Thank you for taking a moment away from developing an awning over the toy shop from all those frosties to tell me the nuances of your people.



Lol thanks for real
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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I'm going to give this a more serious answer than you were anticipating. It's genuinely hard to know what is Aussie slang that people say seriously and what hipsters just say to be ironic or rich preppy cunts say to pretend they are just one of the peasants, so I don't even know any more.

Generally in my mind fair dinkum alone is far more common a rhetorical question indicating approving surprise - picture the BJ Penn nodding gif - like if somebody says 'I had sex with that Romanian chick from a few pages back, I SWEAR I'M NOT GAY' you would say 'fair dinkum?'

It's better to say 'Fair Fucken Dinkum!' It just sounds better.
Reminds me of the difference between "bollocks" = bad and "dog's bollocks"= good.
 

MartyLife

ยาเม็ดสีแดงหรือสีฟ้ายา?
Feb 7, 2020
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Ex


would a "50% lockdown" drop cases? If so, would it do it with less harm than a "90% lockdown"?

Also prohibiting interstate travel is a really arbitrary limiter if we are just talking science.
I think the only way is to try it proper.
The more severe, the less time it would take to find out one way or another.

As this point, as the great orange sage said "what do we have to lose"?

Namaste
 

kneeblock

Don't it always seem to go
Apr 18, 2015
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Is this legit kneeblock @kneeblock ? If it is do you have a rational non-Fox News explanation?
PA is one of several states that have had to ration the drug because it's still not quite being produced at a rate that meets the demand. It's interesting that Fox would run with Pennsylvania because it figures to be hotly contested during the election, but there are a number of states like Virginia, California, Minnesota and others who are doing the same. It's pretty much in keeping with the ethics guidance issued throughout the pandemic. Splinty @Splinty and SC MMA MD @SC MMA MD can probably speak better on it.
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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PA is one of several states that have had to ration the drug because it's still not quite being produced at a rate that meets the demand. It's interesting that Fox would run with Pennsylvania because it figures to be hotly contested during the election, but there are a number of states like Virginia, California, Minnesota and others who are doing the same. It's pretty much in keeping with the ethics guidance issued throughout the pandemic. Splinty @Splinty and SC MMA MD @SC MMA MD can probably speak better on it.
Any idea how they arrive at basing the doling out of medication on finances rather than necessity as being ethical?
 

Splinty

Shake 'em off
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Dec 31, 2014
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PA is one of several states that have had to ration the drug because it's still not quite being produced at a rate that meets the demand. It's interesting that Fox would run with Pennsylvania because it figures to be hotly contested during the election, but there are a number of states like Virginia, California, Minnesota and others who are doing the same. It's pretty much in keeping with the ethics guidance issued throughout the pandemic. Splinty @Splinty and SC MMA MD @SC MMA MD can probably speak better on it.

I've seen a lot of ethical guidance on care rationing but have not seen much suggesting to add a point for lower socioeconomic class.
 

ConorMcGregorsBeard

Stewart Era Liberal
Jul 22, 2015
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I think the only way is to try it proper.
The more severe, the less time it would take to find out one way or another.

As this point, as the great orange sage said "what do we have to lose"?

Namaste
Most of what America and other parts of the world are currently experiencing is being called "Covid Faitgue" people have been sacrificing for 5 months for what's being largely perceived as no discernable reason. Politicans and health officials can't go 24 hours without misleading the public and many people have lost their livelihoods. By trying it again "proper" you're telling everyone who has burned through their life savings, put their family through hardships, lost loved ones they couldn't say goodbye to, stayed up at night worrying about what the next day, week and month were going to bring; that they did it all for nothing. Of course I do realize you have no empathy for others because this isn't directly affecting you but you might consider taking a minute to do that now.

Namaste
 

Dave Insurgent

Johnny hates to think, he's ignorant
Jan 11, 2016
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kneeblock

Don't it always seem to go
Apr 18, 2015
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Any idea how they arrive at basing the doling out of medication on finances rather than necessity as being ethical?
Here's the full rundown on the policy.



It's not exactly unprecedented in the treatment of a disease with a scarce drug to prioritize certain groups that are considered to be at higher risk of negative outcomes or expected to have less access to care. Various kinds of lottery systems have been used in the distribution of anti-retroviral drugs to treat HIV/AIDS on the African continent.

It's important to note the policy does NOT say you're ignoring patient health, but that health being in equally bad shape, they're weighting the evaluation metric to take socioeconomic status into account with a slight bias toward people lower on the totem pole. It seems vaguely eugenist, but I suppose any non-medical rationing program would. Though I suspect some would argue even medical decisions have a certain political basis depending on who is able to access care.

I don't have much of an opinion on the matter, besides finding it interesting that it's being amplified in the way it is by who it is and to which audiences. Other states (or health management organizations or hospitals) have their own protocols for this just like they had to come up with something for ventilator use. It seems consistent with other COVID decisions because they all seem arbitrary. I'm not really persuaded remdesivir is a true life saver or condition alterer so much as a "makes it a little less bad" option, but down the road, there will likely be political fallout from this now that it's in the wind.