General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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Filthy

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Splinty said:
This is the disingenuous thing you keep doing in this thread.
Feel free to search for Nazi to find that I was the original post to mention it and the complexity here beyond us and them.

You posted Jimmy Dore video that I watched in its entirety while accusing everybody of being so simple to not understand what's happening. That video is comically myopic with only an analysis of US party interests for a conflict that is decades old with cultural and geopolitical issues far beyond even the purple revolution forward.
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that video is explaining one aspect of the complex interests at play, none of which are being presented in the "Mad Vlad" narrative being pushed by the MSM. If you want to refer to Aaron Mate or Glenn Greenwald as uninformed or whatever, it makes you appear very biased and uninformed.

Not that I'm an expert on Russian/Ukrainian politics, I'm just informed enough to see that we're being fed propaganda in our news outlets and the truth is a lot more complicated.

The fact that Dan Crenshaw can exhort the Ukrainians to "fight back against the foreign occupiers" and Condi Rice can nod in agreement with "invading a sovereign nation is a war crime" is indicative of how easily we're misled.
 
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kaladin stormblessed said:
i am not saying you are wrong. or right. but its worth noting he is a brown-haired brown-eyed man making that comment about blonde-haired blue eyed children being killed by missiles

and he made the statement in a second or, more likely, third language

so intent may have gotten lost in translation
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i encourage you to look in to the treatment of ethnic minorities in Ukraine.
 
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Ukraine in touch with Turkey for purchase of more combat drones: ambassador - Turkish Minute

Vadym Prystaiko, the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, has said Ukraine is in touch with Turkey for the purchase of more of the country’s Bayraktar TB2 combat drones, medium-sized tactical unmanned aerial vehicles that can carry anti-tank missiles, BBC Turkish service reported on Tuesday. “We...
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“We don’t have our own combat drones, we’re trying to produce a type we call the ‘Kamikaze drone.’ In the meantime, we use reconnaissance drones from different countries. We are in contact with Turkey regarding [the purchase of] more attack drones,” BBC quoted Prystaiko as saying on Tuesday.

“Although Turkey supplies them to us, we’re still far from using them effectively. … We have enough drone operators and they’re still being trained in Turkey right now,” the ambassador added.

Ukraine and Turkey have developed close defense industry ties, a relationship that has flourished in recent years.

Ukrainian companies also produce the engines for the Bayraktar TB2 drones, manufactured by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s son-in-law, Selçuk Bayraktar. Turkey has sold over 20 of them to Kyiv over the course of two years. Some experts believe the number of TB2s in the Ukrainian arsenal could be even higher.

TB2s, which have a proven track record of success against several adversaries in conflicts in Libya, Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh, are also proving effective against Russian forces in the Russia-Ukraine war, a report by the Middle East Eye website said on Monday.

Lt. Gen. Mykola Oleshchuk, the chief of Ukraine’s Air Force, had confirmed in a Facebook post that they used “life-giving” Bayraktar TB2 drones.
 
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Lars said:
Shameless as ever, Mr. Trump pivoted on Saturday night in a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. He characterized the Russian invasion of Ukraine as “an assault on humanity.” But he insisted that Mr. Putin was “smart” to invade, while “our leaders are dumb.”

And he declared that anyone looking for a real danger to liberty should “start with the democracy that is under threat right next door, a place called Canada.”

He claimed that “the tyranny we have witnessed in Canada in recent weeks should shock and dismay people all over the world. ... The peaceful movement of patriotic truckers, workers and families protesting for their most basic rights and liberties has been violently put down.”

“A line has been has crossed,” he told the CPAC audience. “You’re either with the peaceful truckers or you are with the left-wing fascists.” That would be Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government.

As for Mr. Trump and his house: “We stand with the truckers and we stand with the Canadian people in their noble quest to reclaim their freedom.”
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He'll keep yapping like this and talk himself out of any chance for a 2nd run as POTUS. Assuming that either side can scoop up a candidate that isn't just as nauseating.
 
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BeardOfKnowledge said:
You're pulling a Trump...
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LOL

I now amend my prior retraction by half.
1. The retraction shall be considered whole pending the condemnation free of praise. It must be solid and not a mealy mouthed, politically calculated thing.
2. The requirements of 1. having been fulfilled, full credit is justified and will be attributed as such.
 
Filthy

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kaladin stormblessed said:
nazis and prejudice treatment exist in america. that does not justify putin invading here though

same with ukraine imo
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no, but Russia does have a legitimate security concern with Ukraine joining NATO, which would put NATO bases on their border...same reason they annexed the region of Crimea with their largest naval base.

the US, through the past 3 administrations, as exasperated that situation because it positively affects our Energy oligarchs and advances US hegemony.


View: https://youtu.be/ZnHo6JXxcQM
 
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Hauler said:
He'll keep yapping like this and talk himself out of any chance for a 2nd run as POTUS. Assuming that either side can scoop up a candidate that isn't just as nauseating.
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Tulsi Gabbard

#MyPresident
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Pak protector said:
LOL

I now amend my prior retraction by half.
1. The retraction shall be considered whole pending the condemnation free of praise. It must be solid and not a mealy mouthed, politically calculated thing.
2. The requirements of 1. having been fulfilled, full credit is justified and will be attributed as such.
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Wow very Trumpian of you.
 
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Filthy said:
no, but Russia does have a legitimate security concern with Ukraine joining NATO, which would put NATO bases on their border...same reason they annexed the region of Crimea with their largest naval base.

the US, through the past 3 administrations, as exasperated that situation because it positively affects our Energy oligarchs and advances US hegemony.


View: https://youtu.be/ZnHo6JXxcQM
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glen greenwald had a great past. but he is dead to me. along with jimmy dore and tulsi gabbard

putting them aside, im still confused. ukraine siding with NATO is bad for putin as a dictactor

why should that cause me to support him invading and murdering those of another country?

i dont believe in the offense industry of the united states. nor that of the offense industry of russia
 
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