General Russia Ukraine round 2 Price hike boogaloo

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NotBanjaxo

NotBanjaxo

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BeardOfKnowledge said:
I'm willing to do everything conceivable to avoid war
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If that includes allowing colonisation of another country by a hostile force, then trying to appease the aggressor, then you have absolutely nailed the Neville Chamberlain role.
 
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Qat

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MMAHAWK said:
So did he arrive to negotiate and then refuse or did he turn down an offer? I legit don’t know and would be curious what Russia was offered.
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Western leaders came to kiss his feet asking what they can do to avert a war, Putin said nothing, it's just an exercise and sent em all home after some nice pictures for him.
 
BeardOfKnowledge

BeardOfKnowledge

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NotBanjaxo said:
If that includes allowing colonisation of another country by a hostile force, then trying to appease the aggressor, then you have absolutely nailed the Neville Chamberlain role.
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They had a referendum. It's not up to me to tell another place what country they have to be a part of. If Ukraine won't let them leave and a war starts as a result that's not our business.

Hitler also didn't have nukes.
 
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Qat

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MMAHAWK said:
So it went like this?
World- what would you like Vlad?
Vlad- No Ukraine in Nato
World- fuck off
Vlad- ok I’m leaving
World- he won’t negotiate
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Na the whole nato thing is years in the making. At that point he already made his decision and didn't negotiate.
 
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NotBanjaxo said:
I concede the point, I was thinking solely of supply. Surely the benevolent leader of Russia wouldn't let his populace starve though? There's no precedent for that happening there. /s

The only ways that the war will end with Ukraine not being subjugated by Russia are defeat / collapse of the Russian military, or from internal pressure within Russia (or a combination of partial military collapse and internal rumblings).

It's a shitty situation for civilians in both countries, but Russia is the aggressor and Ukranians are suffering far far worse right now.
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I was about to eviscerate u
 
BeardOfKnowledge

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Qat said:
True, but he thought he can reach em by force, so he wasn't interested in negotiating with anyone.
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I don't think we have any reason to believe the invasion would have occurred if his demands were met. It's dishonest to frame Putin as the only party negotiating in bad faith, however I acknowledge some of his demands should not have been met.
 
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